Has anyone got a Nvidia GTX980Ti Hybrid

[CMDR W E S Fisher]

If this has already been asked I apologise. Looked through threads but cant find the info I'm after. I currently have a 780Ti Kingpin and looking to upgrade with a card to Sli with in the future. Nvidia are getting sli working with vr. The 980Ti Hybrid seems a good overclocking option with the bonus of being quiet.

Has anyone got one or 2 of these in Sli and what is your opinion on the performance with ED.

Or would I be best getting another 780Ti Kingpin.

Thanks for reading and for reply's when they come up.

 

[Full_Ninja]

I have one and it is the best card I've ever owned. For performance in Elite I can only speak to performance in UN-inhabited space because I'm at Sagittarius A. In UN-inhabited space I have everything at max except shadows. I have shadows set at med with in game SS at 1.5. I very rarely drop below 75fps and when I do it would never dip below 70fps. Most of the time, I would say 98% of the time it is 75fps. Temps are around 45c with a boost clock that goes to 1486mhz.

 

[V3teran]

The problem with Maxwell architecture is that its "gimped" regarding voltage control because of the lack of I2C commands. Custom volt modded is only done via a hardmod unlike keplar which could be done with I2C commands from the slave voltage controller. The point im trying to make is even if you purchase a kingpin edition its still going to be gimped because of the architecture. The only thing that you will get is a higher ASIC (80%+), however this is not enough to achieve large overclocks in some cases. Also Evbot is useless on Maxwell that is if you have an Evbot to begin with.

I modded my Titan X bios myself, flashed it and have a huge OC of 1590mhz, the biggest i know of without exotic cooling like PC or LN.
Tbh i get 100fps vsync locked on my Tempest pretty much all the time. My card dont even break a sweat and my temps do not go above 45 degrees and my PC is so quiet you dont even know that its switched on as all fans run at 500rpm. However i do have a proper custom water-cooled setup and not a hybrid "quick fix".

If you want to go for the hybrid go for it but dont bother with the kingpin on maxwell, waste of time tbh on this architecture.
Btw my ASIC is 78.3 % (Gigabyte)

Also 2 of those in SLI is complete and utter overkill, the second card will remain idle, if we had custom AA like MSAA+SGSSAA then yeah go for 2 cards but with the ingame AA that we have i wouldnt bother tbh as its hardly taxing 1 card at all.
Most people play at 60fps, 1 card will max out at 120fps easily, 2 cards is just not needed for ED. I had 2 Titan X's and sent one back, too much power tbh unless your at 4k and even if you are at 4k no cards will hit the mark with that just yet not even Pascal at 100fps 4k.

 

[Jon flint]

Okay, I'm not lucky enough to have a 980 or Titan, but i do have a 970.

I have to say in blown away by your GPU temps. 45 degrees!?! My 970 is probably 45 degrees right now and my PC is off!

How the heck do you guys get your cards running so cool? My 970 runs at around 70 degrees under load, and apparently this is actually slightly below normal and perfectly fine for a Maxwell card. Time to tweak some fan curves I think!

 

[CMDR W E S Fisher]

Thanks for the reply's guys. Awsome info. I think I will go for x1 of the 980Ti hybrid. Although I will wait closer until vive is out and maybe cv1. Defiantly going to consider architecture when buying.

Thanks again

 

[V3teran]

Okay, I'm not lucky enough to have a 980 or Titan, but i do have a 970.

I have to say in blown away by your GPU temps. 45 degrees!?! My 970 is probably 45 degrees right now and my PC is off!

How the heck do you guys get your cards running so cool? My 970 runs at around 70 degrees under load, and apparently this is actually slightly below normal and perfectly fine for a Maxwell card. Time to tweak some fan curves I think!

Check out my rig here (click on sig), im on custom water not air. I have not been on an air setup for around 10 years now.
Link here
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21199

Thanks for the reply's guys. Awsome info. I think I will go for x1 of the 980Ti hybrid. Although I will wait closer until vive is out and maybe cv1. Defiantly going to consider architecture when buying.

Thanks again

No worries, also VR does not use as much as you think because of the very low resolution which also opens up to aliasing being much more visible. Im waiting for something much more before i commit to VR. If i was you i wouldnt worry about it too much as you will find that the Hybrid 980Ti will probably run the new VR headsets with ease (have not checked specs yet). It all depends on your resolution and level of Anti Aliasing.

 

[callezetter]

I wouldnt really say that VR have low res requirements at all. The engine need to produce a rendertarget of around 2830x1566 and at 90fps, for CV1.

 

[V3teran]

The Rift is only 1200p per eye 2160×1200 (1080×1200 per eye).
I know this is 90hz/90fps over dual displays but is it a "true 90hz" or Alternative Frame rendering which is not a true 90hz as each eye is rendered alternatively alittle bit like the early first 3D LCD's that appeared, they was not true 120hz.
I have not looked into this just going with what i know.

I was using 1080\1200p in 2008 so i expect minimum 1440p or even 4k with a rift. I do mean true 4k and not upscaled to 4k either. So that to me is low res in 2015.

 

[Loworbit]

Got a 980 Ti in reference design a few weeks ago, replaced the cooler and rigged it to my watercooling. My 140mm fans are running at 500 rpm all the time and are unnoticable. 51°C, all settings maxed out, 4K DSR, playing with Rift DK2. Works flawless!
I highly doubt, that SLI 780 Ti would satisfy you (SLI -> microstuttering).
If you want a potent but quiet gaming rig get a watercooled system, if you can't afford it get a good headset

 

[callezetter]

The Rift is only 1200p per eye 2160×1200 (1080×1200 per eye).
I know this is 90hz/90fps over dual displays but is it a "true 90hz" or Alternative Frame rendering which is not a true 90hz as each eye is rendered alternatively alittle bit like the early first 3D LCD's that appeared, they was not true 120hz.
I have not looked into this just going with what i know.

I was using 1080\1200p in 2008 so i expect minimum 1440p or even 4k with a rift. I do mean true 4k and not upscaled to 4k either. So that to me is low res in 2015.

Oh its true 90fps alright. No alternative frame rendering. Both screens gets updated at 90hz.
Yes the screens are 1080x1200p but in order for the lens warping to be correct the game need
to render a lot higher than that. The combined rendertarget the GPU need to handle is around
2830x1566@90hz for CV1.

Thats basicly what the Oculus qualitybar does in the graphics settings. It change that target resolution.

A standard 1080p game@60hz need around 124M shaded Mpixel/s from the GPU to run well.
A CV1 need close to 400M shaded Mpixel/s to run well. That is what I refer to when I say its
not low resolution requirements.

But I agree with you, any 4k capable GPU can handle it.

 

[V3teran]

Got a 980 Ti in reference design a few weeks ago, replaced the cooler and rigged it to my watercooling. My 140mm fans are running at 500 rpm all the time and are unnoticable. 51°C, all settings maxed out, 4K DSR, playing with Rift DK2. Works flawless!
I highly doubt, that SLI 780 Ti would satisfy you (SLI -> microstuttering).
If you want a potent but quiet gaming rig get a watercooled system, if you can't afford it get a good headset

I had a 690 before my Titan X and it had no Stutter whatsoever because of Hardware based frame metering, it was actually smoother than 2 cards in SLI and here is the proof.
http://www.computerbase.de/2012-05/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-690/8/

Also ive been using SLI since the very first SLI gpu which is the Voodoo 2 which i still own.
I have had no problems using SLI whatsoever, aslong as there is a flag within inspector you should get no troubles. Ive never had troubles tbh, decent drivers eliminate that.
My Titan X is no smoother than the 690 was, only time i had bit of stutter was when i had 2x690s in SLI (quads) but that was fixed due to very early drivers that i was using as i purchased them on launch day.

780Tis are good cards, only problem is the lack of Vram at 3GB which is fine for ED at 1440p but any higher than that and also other games will take the vram further.

 

[CMDR W E S Fisher]

Thanks so much for all the replies. Definitely going to get a single 980ti hybrid. Then later look at full water cool system. Great info here guys. Learned a little whilst reading too.

 

[LuciusEsox]

Blimey those temps...... I heat my house with my 970

 

[Adam Lusardi]

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[V3teran]

Sony are working on a 120hz VR headset, i will start looking at VR when this arrives in 2016.
The high amount of Hz means a much much smoother experience and less eye strain.
You will need extra GPU power to push it to 120fps though.

 

[natte hond]

Sony are working on a 120hz VR headset, i will start looking at VR when this arrives in 2016.
The high amount of Hz means a much much smoother experience and less eye strain.
You will need extra GPU power to push it to 120fps though.

that's ps4 only right?
if so that seems a big no no.

Nvidia says they are going to render with two gpu,s one per eye and linked of course.
that seems like good news to me.
they might be able to bring VR to a broader public fast that way.
cos then the latest gpu might not be a necessity.

it remains to be seen what happens but it pays to check their site on it.

edit ; the link https://developer.nvidia.com/virtual-reality-development

 

[Deimos-GOW]

Yeah I already spoke at length about this in the SLI thread. Currently 980Ti SLI is a total waste of time, the experience in VR is worse than single card, both my 980Ti are running 1470 core 8Ghz mem which is a fairly decent OC but SLI introduces lag which can cause nausea for some people. It doesn't for me but I still prefer SLI off. Things may change once VR hits mainstream though, time will tell.

 

[V3teran]

that's ps4 only right?
if so that seems a big no no.

Nvidia says they are going to render with two gpu,s one per eye and linked of course.
that seems like good news to me.
they might be able to bring VR to a broader public fast that way.
cos then the latest gpu might not be a necessity.

it remains to be seen what happens but it pays to check their site on it.

edit ; the link https://developer.nvidia.com/virtual-reality-development

Could be ps4 i didnt look into it that much. However i think its early days for VR, much better tech is still to come.
The GPU rendering you talk about is AFR (alternative frame rendering).

 

[dementia]

Also 2 of those in SLI is complete and utter overkill, the second card will remain idle

I'm afraid that is not my experiences. I use 2 x 980Ti (MSI) in SLI and both cards are working hard to give me 75fps, 1.5ss and most of the setting to high or ultra. When I only had a single card, I had to have almost everything OFF or LOW in order to get the 1.5/2.0 ss enabled.

Downsides of SLI though I've noticed in the game... DSR cannot be used as it causes massive flickering in ED for me. I have to use in game SS, the debug/mirror screen (AppConfig.xml) doesn't work if I have SLI enabled. ED fails to even load up (any one else get this?).

Whether or not you can justify a £600 extra GFX card for what probably amounts to only a 30% gain at the moment is another thing however when Nvidia and especially FD specifically support and optimise for both a HMD and SLI then we should all see a massive boost.

If you don't play with a HMD and only use monitors then 60fps is fine and I doubt SLI would help you as a single 980Ti can handle that no problem and likely even at 4K.

 

[bloom691]

I have the MSI/Corsair 980ti SeaHawk - love it! The fan is a little noisy - compare to my H100i CPU cooler which I can barely hear. The GPU certainly gets warm - temperatures peak around 60C whereas my CPU is always below 50C - benefits of dual-fan radiator maybe? I am running my CPU overlocked to 4.6GHz but my GPU is stock for now I can play with Rift settings all on max with no problems.