Thanks everyone for the replies- and ideas-- I am going back on the hunt with a little different mindset, will try to be a little more patient, realizing this is not your average dogfight that will be over in 2 min. I might try to target the drives first to limit their ability to turn then go for the power plant. I'll drop the kws in favor of point defense, and Maybe try dumbfires instead of multi's. I'm definitely going to stop the run and gun jousting I don't want to get ramed again. I will use my thrusters more