Engineers Having problems unlocking Engineer, Bill Turner - Advice needed

Cmdr Travers

Cmdr Travers
Hi all,

My unlock rep with the engineer Bill Turner hasn't shifted in what feels like months. This is despite going to various Alliance systems, selling exploration data and performing donation missions to become friendly with them.

Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? :/

Thanks all.

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Von Shadow

Von Shadow
Ranking up with the Alliance is akin to that of the Federation/Empire.... getting friendly with Alliance aligned factions helps and you need to continue to do so .... its hard work ... is the % not moving at all??

It's by no means as simple as it used to be but i find just cashing in alliance bounty vouchers / combat bonds is a good way of maintaining my allied rank without doing anything specific.
 

Cmdr Travers

Cmdr Travers
Nope, it's not moved in absolutely ages :( I can try combat bonds and bounty vouchers, but if it's gonna be a long process I might just leave it.

I just don't understand why becoming friendly with Alliance factions isn't making a sliver of difference.
 

JetsonRING

JetsonRING
Just getting friendly with "alliance factions" is not enough. Are you in Alioth system running missions for Alioth Alliance of Independent Systems? You need to continue running missions for that faction, from that system in order to receive the invite. I do not think you need to remain in the system to get the invite, I did not receive the invite while I was actually in Alioth system, I was however running a mission from Alioth system for the Alliance of Independent Systems and did not receive the invite until had continued to run several more missions for them than was necessary just to get Friendly with them. o7
 
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Cmdr Travers

Cmdr Travers
JetsonRING said:
Are you in Alioth system running missions for Alioth Alliance of Independent Systems? You need to continue running missions for that faction, from that system in order to receive the invite. I do not think you need to remain in the system to get the invite, I did not receive the invite while I was actually in Alioth system, I was however running a mission from Alioth system for the Alliance of Independent Systems and did not receive the invite until had continued to run several more missions for them than was necessary just to get Friendly with them. o7
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Okay, that makes sense. Thanks :)
 

viper666

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Cmdr Travers said:
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks :)
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Yes it does, it takes commanders on here to work out and explain how you climb the fences erected by the Devs. If there's a rez site in the system, bounties are a great way of repping up with a faction, just be sure not to kill any of their ships, wanted or not. You can use the nav beacon but progress is slower.
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
viper666 said:
Yes it does, it takes commanders on here to work out and explain how you climb the fences erected by the Devs.
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What are you talking about? The description under that progress bar clearly says "Get friendly with Alliance of Independent systems". And that is exactly what is needed to get the invitation.

Then (or before) you have to gain the Alioth permit. That means getting allied with Alioth Independents.

I don't think there is any fence, there. It really couldn't be much simpler than that.
Wanna befriend an engineer? Do what he asks you to do. Wanna get a system permit? Get allied with its owners and they will let you in.
It takes time, yes, but everything in Elite does.
 
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Chris Simon said:
What are you talking about? The description under that progress bar clearly says "Get friendly with Alliance of Independent systems". And that is exactly what is needed to get the invitation.

Then (or before) you have to gain the Alioth permit. That means getting allied with Alioth Independents.

I don't think there is any fence, there. It really couldn't be much simpler than that.
Wanna befriend an engineer? Do what he asks you to do. Wanna get a system permit? Get allied with its owners and they will let you in.
It takes time, yes, but everything in Elite does.
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I'm on the same side-quest at the moment. Luckily the Alliance already thinks I'm a real swell fella for some reason, so all I had to do last night was fly up to 78 Ursae and start working the minor faction. Letting it come to you, FTW!

Another very easy way to REP up with factions, OP, is to sell them mined metals. Not sure how it affects your standing with the superpower though. Bounty hunting is also great, but I couldn't find an Alioth Independent controlled ring with a RES in it. Any compromised nav beacons out there?
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
vindelanos said:
I'm on the same side-quest at the moment. Luckily the Alliance already thinks I'm a real swell fella for some reason, so all I had to do last night was fly up to 78 Ursae and start working the minor faction. Letting it come to you, FTW!

Another very easy way to REP up with factions, OP, is to sell them mined metals. Not sure how it affects your standing with the superpower though. Bounty hunting is also great, but I couldn't find an Alioth Independent controlled ring with a RES in it. Any compromised nav beacons out there?
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Yes, selling exploration data or mined ore and metals and claiming bounty vouchers is great for rep. Don't forget you can mine anywhere you want. You just need to sell it at the station controlled by your faction of choice (in this case independents)
 
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Chris Simon said:
Yes, selling exploration data or mined ore and metals and claiming bounty vouchers is great for rep. Don't forget you can mine anywhere you want. You just need to sell it at the station controlled by your faction of choice (in this case independents)
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And then I'm gonna get those sweet sweet efficient PAs.

Not to derail the thread, but I took the concept Viper III out unmodded for some fun in the RES. It actually was a lot of fun to have to worry about pips and shields, rather than just being able to shield-tank damage like I have been. That, of course, isn't going to stop me from juicing this puppy up :D
 

Cmdr Travers

Cmdr Travers
Well, I spent all afternoon today doing missions for Alioth Independents, who I was already Allied with, and my reputation with the Alliance hasn't grown one bit. It's still Cordial, and just shy of being Friendly. The same place it's been for months :(

Perhaps the Alliance doesn't want to be friends with me!
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Cmdr Travers said:
Well, I spent all afternoon today doing missions for Alioth Independents, who I was already Allied with, and my reputation with the Alliance hasn't grown one bit. It's still Cordial, and just shy of being Friendly. The same place it's been for months :(

Perhaps the Alliance doesn't want to be friends with me!
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If you want to do it this way, start working on rep with another Alliance faction. Alliance rep raises when the minor faction rep rises. If you're already allied, you won't be gaining more rep.
tbh I think it would be faster if you used mining, trading or bounty hunting (doesn't matter in which system as long as the controlling faction of the station you're trading with/claiming bounties in is Alliance aligned)
 
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Cmdr Travers

Cmdr Travers
Chris Simon said:
If you want to do it this way, start working on rep with another Alliance faction. Alliance rep raises when the minor faction rep rises. If you're already allied, you won't be gaining more rep.
tbh I think it would be faster if you used mining, trading or bounty hunting (doesn't matter in which system as long as the controlling faction of the station you're trading with/claiming bounties in is Alliance aligned)
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Thanks, I'll try that... at some point :/
 
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