Haz res

[Cmdr Scorpion]

I can hunt all day in a haz res and only have to go back to rearm, but in the three visits to the CZ twice limped home with 20% or less and lost my Corvette at a cost of almost 28 mill.
Are they a different AI in there, or is it to do with the update.
I am not complaining it is just an observation.

 

[shadowwar]

Where you perhaps getting ganked by the opposition in the CZ? This has happened to me loads of times. The choice is when to low wake out and when to slog it out. If you lost 28M in rebuy then your Corvette can't have been too well equipped. Just learn to know when it's time to bug out and time to give up a fight.

 

[Whiterose]

I notice this sometimes. First couple visits I can attack with impunity in my Cutter. Rearm go back and I get ganked, which I actually enjoy as it does show good variety. As shadowwar stated, know when to run away. By the way my rebuy is 46 million so perhaps I am more careful of losing a ship.

 

[KillaALF]

Ships in CZ are much better equipped than pirates in RES - so they are harder to kill. More time to kill an opponent = more time for the others to gang up on you. Additionally, as long as you don't carry any cargo, pirates in a RES will just leave you be and you only have to deal with either single ships or wings, whereas in CZs any number of ships might decide to attack you.

 

[Muzz UK]

I can hunt all day in a haz res and only have to go back to rearm, but in the three visits to the CZ twice limped home with 20% or less and lost my Corvette at a cost of almost 28 mill.
Are they a different AI in there, or is it to do with the update.
I am not complaining it is just an observation.

Conflict Zones are proper warzones so more ships spawn and more ships are likely to target you than in a RES site. I've found unless you are flying well and on top of your game conflict zones are hard solo. Check out my support role thread I just started maybe a friend could aid you Vette in the future!

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...about-the-support-role-in-combat-is-it-viable

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

I can hunt all day in a haz res and only have to go back to rearm, but in the three visits to the CZ twice limped home with 20% or less and lost my Corvette at a cost of almost 28 mill.
Are they a different AI in there, or is it to do with the update.
I am not complaining it is just an observation.

The AI (from what I've read) always targets highest threat.

So when you start laying waste to everything, all the reds instinctively target you.
Best course of action is to loiter with the pack of greens, and avoid straying in to packs of red. And have a high wake destination ready, although your Corvette should be ok for Low wakes unless other Corvettes or Cutters are nearby.

Additionally, CZ ships are military spec, not pirate spec, so take much more of a beating to take down, and they also don't have any requirements to attack, unlike pirates who want your cargo or leave you alone of you have none.

Also, High CZs are actually easier than Low CZs.

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

 

[UnhappyDev]

Bad luck there OP, hope you had the cash for the rebuy.

CZs simply are tougher, the ships you face have better shields/hull, time to kill is longer. I don't think there is any difference in the AI, you are just facing off against greater numbers with better defenses.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

I can hunt all day in a haz res and only have to go back to rearm, but in the three visits to the CZ twice limped home with 20% or less and lost my Corvette at a cost of almost 28 mill.
Are they a different AI in there, or is it to do with the update.
I am not complaining it is just an observation.

ooooo i hope it is a tweak... i play in a group of 3 sometimes and there really is not much content for wingplay outside of pvp

it would be cool if they have put the haz backinto hazres (forgetting for 1 moment that i personally hate the whole farming side of the res's and would rather something better )

edit... doh just read properly.. CZ not RES.

 

[Shockbot]

I can hunt all day in a haz res and only have to go back to rearm, but in the three visits to the CZ twice limped home with 20% or less and lost my Corvette at a cost of almost 28 mill.
Are they a different AI in there, or is it to do with the update.
I am not complaining it is just an observation.

It´s depending on the system I guess. Had exactly the opposite, playing since August 2015 and every fight in an REZ brought me to the limit. I changed the position and now even a HAZ RES is now not a problem.

 

[SP45M]

It has been stated before in the forums and I have noticed myself that you can groom up a nice CZ with your team owning the opposition but suddenly a new wave of enemies will spawn in and wreak havoc seemingly because your team is out of ammo. Personally I dont use my Corvette at it burns ammo to quick, both for guns and shield cells. I generally take the Cutter, 3600mj shield at 60% resists, turn on beam turrets and watch a movie.

 

[_trent_]

I can hunt all day in a haz res and only have to go back to rearm, but in the three visits to the CZ twice limped home with 20% or less and lost my Corvette at a cost of almost 28 mill.
Are they a different AI in there, or is it to do with the update.
I am not complaining it is just an observation.

As others have said, CZ ships do tend to be better spec than pirate ships in the RES sites. But that's not the main difference in my opinion.

Assuming you have no cargo you can pick and choose who and when to fight in the RES, whereas in the CZ all ships on the other side are automatically hostile. As others have said, you can get swarmed if you don't keep a few greens nearby (and sometimes even if you do.) Wouldn't be the first time I've had to do the Bravely Bold Sir Robin from a CZ.

 

[Kingston@#]

I haven't done any cz since update, I would say that it depends on what ships and ranks are spawning, sometimes I stay in for days, with enough mats and I rarely need to dock to rearm.
sometimes I get my *** handed too me and have to disengage from the battle.

 

[sqzbox1]

Yeah - these are military vessels. They tend to be armoured and there is a high frequency of rail guns and plasmas. You need to take notice of what weaponry is on board before striking. Also you do need to be more tactical in your approach. The AI isn't necessarily better, but they are more CZ-oriented if you get my drift. Because it is a more high density sort of chaos you have to be aware of your surroundings way more than in a RES. If the tide turns against you then there will be more reds than greens and they are all looking for targets so you will get jumped by several at the same time. Don't muck around - get outa there!

 

[[VR] Enexemander]

I can hunt all day in a haz res and only have to go back to rearm, but in the three visits to the CZ twice limped home with 20% or less and lost my Corvette at a cost of almost 28 mill.
Are they a different AI in there, or is it to do with the update.
I am not complaining it is just an observation.

Situational awareness is much more important in a CZ, because you will get attacked by overwhelming opposition if you're not careful. The easiest way to get into trouble is to focus on a low health target that is running. Guess where they are running? To their buddies, who will swarm you after you run away from the army on your side.

Fight with your team. Pick a friend, and attack their targets. Don't start a fight with a ship that isn't already in a fight. It doesn't take too many kills like this to turn the tide of the battle. Once you've got a side mopped up, the new arriving ships for that side will jump into a meat grinder. Sometimes, despite your best efforts, your side is just losing the fight. Jump out to reset the fight and start over with (hopefully) a less aggressively incompetent set of team mates.

 

[CapuchinSeven]

Secret to a CZ is to know when to bug out. No shame in it, boost out hard, assess and then come back or leave.

 

[wrmiller]

I'll stick to haz res sites, thanks. CZs sound too cumbersome (stay with friends, etc...). I actually like fighting amongst the rocks. Even in the vette, although playing peek-a-boo while fighting a wing does result in the occasional bump into a rock I didn't see coming...

If I need more of a challenge, I'll carry along some gold with me.

 

[Cmdr Scorpion]

Well I upgraded to Millitary armour And did a few more upgrades and this time lost 32 mill.
I wouldn't have minded but we are already at 75% to their 10%.
Now back in the Haz res sites and having fun.

 

[Conch]

CZ is crowd control.

 

[Xious]

Multiple hostiles so take 'em out one at time.