General / Off-Topic Healthy food.
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I believe that we can eat everything, if we eat reasonable quantities and we do a little sport
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I'm find the rivisionist thinking of fats recently to be very intersting.
A few months ago there was the revelation that the entire thinking since 1979 was based upon studies of 5 homless men in San Francisco. That report caused a bit of a stirr at the time, but has since disappeared.
Statins were, for a time being advised for everyone as a matter of course. Now: It fears the drugs are linked to side-effects including muscle pain, cataracts, liver dysfunction, diabetes, fatigue and memory loss. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/593833/New-calls-review-statin-danger
There has to be a reason. The increasing costs of all the prophylactic treatment for fat are probably playing a part. Just wonder what else is driving this latest nonsense.
A few months ago there was the revelation that the entire thinking since 1979 was based upon studies of 5 homless men in San Francisco. That report caused a bit of a stirr at the time, but has since disappeared.
Statins were, for a time being advised for everyone as a matter of course. Now: It fears the drugs are linked to side-effects including muscle pain, cataracts, liver dysfunction, diabetes, fatigue and memory loss. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/593833/New-calls-review-statin-danger
There has to be a reason. The increasing costs of all the prophylactic treatment for fat are probably playing a part. Just wonder what else is driving this latest nonsense.
Agreed. But usually there is some reason for the change.
Such as the mid 60s when Uganda and Kenya both newly independant and looking for markets for their coffee. Suddenly it was discovered Tea was giving us all Tannin Acid Poisoning.
Mid 80s, when there was a 'mountain' of tomatoes because of the EU. Suddenly it was discovered that processed tomato, ketchup, sauces and such, would prevent cancer.
I can understand the logic here in Europe for the change in policy about fats since it was going to cost European health servces too much to provide everyone with statins.
But this is a world wide change, also affecting the US.
There, statins and such were paid for by consumers so the ecconomic incentive to reduce their use doesn't really affect big business or governments.
Moreover, the scare over fats has been so ingrained in US culture for so long now.
There has to be another reason for this change now.
Watch the skees.
Such as the mid 60s when Uganda and Kenya both newly independant and looking for markets for their coffee. Suddenly it was discovered Tea was giving us all Tannin Acid Poisoning.
Mid 80s, when there was a 'mountain' of tomatoes because of the EU. Suddenly it was discovered that processed tomato, ketchup, sauces and such, would prevent cancer.
I can understand the logic here in Europe for the change in policy about fats since it was going to cost European health servces too much to provide everyone with statins.
But this is a world wide change, also affecting the US.
There, statins and such were paid for by consumers so the ecconomic incentive to reduce their use doesn't really affect big business or governments.
Moreover, the scare over fats has been so ingrained in US culture for so long now.
There has to be another reason for this change now.
Watch the skees.
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Whatever the question is here, olive oil seems to be the answer. Simples! 
<nods> Always have used olive oil, always will.
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It's weird, but when I was a kid you could only get it from chemists, and then just to pour in your ears to help shift wax. Cooking with it was madness.
When I was a kid, they used to brutally syringe your ears to shift wax. I got the taste for olive oil in Spain when I was fourteen, but I grew up on lard/dripping for cooking - my mum used it for everything. I've always eaten a high-fat diet - and my cholesterol levels are fine, as is my heart. However, my brain is frazzled and my lungs are knackered.
Have a look at "The oiling of America" presentation for another perspective on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKdYUCUca8
I don't know how good a source the author is but she tells quite a convincing story concerning how the links between cholesterol, saturated fats and heart disease are pretty much totally bogus, hyped up to help sell lots of vegetable oil and statins.
I can easily believe her analysis of how cholesterol studies were misreported and misunderstood and certainly some of what she says rings true with me, I personally know 3 people on prescribed statins, they all have very obvious memory problems.
On the other hand, I find some of her logic a bit fishy. For example, primary evidence for her theory includes virtually zero death rate in the USA from cardiac arrest prior to sometime early 20th century IIRC. I highly doubt death by heart attack was accurately recorded in the USA at the time in question, she claims it actually didn't happen because our diet was uncorrupted, but then later she explains an anomaly by citing under reporting of cardiac arrest due to cultural factors in Japan. Seems like having your evidence cake and eating it to me.
Anyway, I make omelletes with butter and oatcakes with lard, they taste better that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKdYUCUca8
I don't know how good a source the author is but she tells quite a convincing story concerning how the links between cholesterol, saturated fats and heart disease are pretty much totally bogus, hyped up to help sell lots of vegetable oil and statins.
I can easily believe her analysis of how cholesterol studies were misreported and misunderstood and certainly some of what she says rings true with me, I personally know 3 people on prescribed statins, they all have very obvious memory problems.
On the other hand, I find some of her logic a bit fishy. For example, primary evidence for her theory includes virtually zero death rate in the USA from cardiac arrest prior to sometime early 20th century IIRC. I highly doubt death by heart attack was accurately recorded in the USA at the time in question, she claims it actually didn't happen because our diet was uncorrupted, but then later she explains an anomaly by citing under reporting of cardiac arrest due to cultural factors in Japan. Seems like having your evidence cake and eating it to me.
Anyway, I make omelletes with butter and oatcakes with lard, they taste better that way.
I switched to a high fat diet about 3 years ago. I try to get as much saturated fat as possible.
I have 1 month before switch and 1.5 years in blood tests, triglycerides dropped by just under 50%. HDLs up 28%. Massive changes and with no drugs, just changing what I eat.
People seem to think extra thick double whipped cream, or bacon/eggs drenched in butter is unhealthy.
I have 1 month before switch and 1.5 years in blood tests, triglycerides dropped by just under 50%. HDLs up 28%. Massive changes and with no drugs, just changing what I eat.
People seem to think extra thick double whipped cream, or bacon/eggs drenched in butter is unhealthy.
<sips coffee with double cream - nods>
Is bacon and egg sushi healthy? Certainly looks scrumptious!
Nice.
Plus you can try Welsh Sushi ? .. Fishfingers .. raw from the fridge
(chawa mushi) WA .. oish-katta SO!
[video=youtube;kfhhOg5pP2I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfhhOg5pP2I[/video]
(there's lovely)
Look at it. Just look at that thing people.
Anything that looks like that can not be bad for you.