Hear me! I think I understood FD narrative about aliens.

[Guest 161958]

Here is my theory: Thargoid interceptors and scouts are the product of the genetic engineering of the guardians. Or possibly their corrupted AI. For warfare.

why? Because in the logs Ram Tah mentions the guardians's prowess at bioengineering and there are no escape pods or pilots visible inside the interceptors.

FDEV PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE IF I PREDICTED YOUR NARRATIVE!!!

 

[Winterwalker]

Look for an interest in mycology? Thargoid probes seem to 'spore', which might be seeding the growth of new entities.

Blurry shot but the brightest dots are not stars, they're coming from the probe and they're alive.
Reminds me of spawning polyps or the reproduction of fungi by spore.

Spoiler

An unusual way of mining out new resources but effective, seed a rocky planet and extract minerals by directly ingesting and digesting?

 

[Hanerib]

Only problem is that apparently thargoids met with guardians, had some turf war over mining rights, and had no prior contact. I personally think traditionalist sect of the guardian schism, starting in second guardian civil war, began merging with thargoid bio-technology.

 

[Ouberos]

Oh come on, you can do better than that.

Here let me try.

The Thargoid narrative is a giant con. It's a misdirection straight out of the Hans Gruber playbook.

The Interceptors aren't hostile unless you are packing Guardian weaponry, carrying their tech or engage them.

The wreckage sites are all military. Every threat 5 USS that spawns in the Plaeides contains military cargo and the Goids have finished off the would be attackers in self defence.
We encountered Scouts after the interceptors. We encountered Scouts after the Prison ship had been picked clean and the Thargoids started taking escape pods.

I believe the Scouts are piloted by human /Thargoid engineered bioconstructs. For the last few years we have seen mysterious medical transports carrying cargo pods and performance enhancers / scientific research around the bubble. I believe these were the early attempts to turn the otherwise passive Thargoids into more aggressive pilots.

The Scouts are the result of this now successful program.

Many people have already mentioned that the Eagle Eye early warning system points towards the beacons which are deployed by aegis and these beacons draw in the Thargoids and the Human/Thargoid scouts which then lay waste to whatever they are directed to in the mindless manner in which insects react to danger stimulation.

Why are "They" doing this?

Have you ever been out to the Pleiades nebula and counted the number of mega ships which have been attacked?

I've been a Pirate for many years and I know a looting when I see one.

I don't know the whys and the how's but I'm telling you the Thargoids are mindless pawns in this game and you lot have swallowed the misdirection hook line and sinker.


What do you think?
Hope I didn't rush it too much?

 

[Insane4un]

Here is my theory: Thargoid interceptors and scouts are the product of the genetic engineering of the guardians. Or possibly their corrupted AI. For warfare.

why? Because in the logs Ram Tah mentions the guardians's prowess at bioengineering and there are no escape pods or pilots visible inside the interceptors.

FDEV PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE IF I PREDICTED YOUR NARRATIVE!!!

Here is what it is in reality of Elite Universe.

The origin of Thargoids is still a mistery. They are more than 2 million years old. Much older than Guardians. Guardian AI was never corrupted. It become sentient at one point and decided to eliminate a threat to them (guardians) to establish their own civilization. And they did. And we just triggered them already. And many months or year latter (in whatever update) will see their reaction to our presence in the galaxy.

Thargoid interceptors and scouts are just biomechanical advanced machines - as an answer to Guardian strategy in war. Interceptor was created to scan everything in search of guardian tech and eliminate it. It was designed with idea to be damaged, but still be able to fight guardians military machines. That's why it have lightning strike after first heart is damaged and EMP to defect guardian machines offensive capabilities. However, thargons was never mentioned in Guardian - Thargoid conflict. Guardians defeated thargoids in this conflict and forced them to retreat.

My guess - thargons is their own adaptation against humans.

I noticed that some pilots in the thread are wondering why are they doing it.

Well, their motivation is pretty easy to explain. They seeded this whole region of space more than 3 thousands years ago. All they want now is their own space. How to determine which one of our space is actually theirs? Just look for ammonia world in the system. If system have such planet, there is 90% chance that thargoids marked it as a target.
What they think about us? Pretty much nothing. We can't do anything to them, we can't stop them. We can only win some time, and they are aware of it. They also use our weakness in society (Far God cult and others + Galnet).

Are they trying to eliminate us as a species? No they don't. In fact not even trying. They only want something that is theirs.

They will not touch SOL or any other important to Humanity systems. Cause they simply have no purpose to them or resources.

There is a chance however for SOL attack because of Aegis provocation on thargoids (Aegis core moved to SOL).

Overall the war is still not happened. It's just a local territorial conflict for now. And thargoids never put the whole system into crysis. They only trying to force system to retreat. With as less casualties as possible.

Are they good? No. Are we good? No.

Are we started this conflict? Yes.

Should you participate in this conflict? It's your call. But thargoids don't really care.

 

[Ouberos]

My idea is more fun.

 

[Hanerib]

There are many planets seeded by thargoids and they have been like that for a long time.. Enough time for some unsuspecting civilization to explore, set bases.. terraform these planets. Yes, they are going to attack Sol.

Thargoid species is a colonial organism. Space Siphonophorae, they even look alike. Interceptors and scouts are specialized creatures, basic form is the thargoid sensor. A polyp which cannot survive long on its own. Such great irony in a way.

Sometimes I secretly hope fdev stops revealing any new lore because the stuff we have here at the forums is just so much better.

 

[Guest 161958]

There are many planets seeded by thargoids and they have been like that for a long time.. Enough time for some unsuspecting civilization to explore, set bases.. terraform these planets. Yes, they are going to attack Sol.

Thargoid species is a colonial organism. Space Siphonophorae, they even look alike. Interceptors and scouts are specialized creatures, basic form is the thargoid sensor. A polyp which cannot survive long on its own. Such great irony in a way.

Sometimes I secretly hope fdev stops revealing any new lore because the stuff we have here at the forums is just so much better.

This does not deny the fact that the guardians might have bioengineered them.

 

[Ephergie]

Imagine, if you will, that an Insectoid species, such as Locusts, became the dominant entity on our planet - evolving to the point that they spread to the stars. Their technology and life view would naturally be as alien to our world view as the Thargoids seem to us. They have developed a methodology of resource extraction and colonisation that operates on a grand timescale, focusing on the needs of the Hive or even the entire species above the needs of the individual.

For millennia, they go about their lives - fulfilling their evolutionary needs. Until, one day, they discover that some mammalian evolutionary offshoot has started encroaching on their territory. While these strange, short-lived creatures offer no threat - they are ignored... or looked on with curiosity or analysed for any potential threat. But once the mammalians start to interfere with the natural order of Thargoid existence, measures have to be taken.

We are, in effect, the fluffy Bunnies that hop around near the farmer's vegetable patch - not a real threat until we start burrowing into Thargoid Giles' prize marrows and cabbages. Worse still - we gave THEM myxomatosis and started fighting back. The evolved Locusts have a plague of Humanity on their hands... AND THESE BUNNIES BITE!

Right now the Thargoids are busy searching for their Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch...

(Insert Python's Holy Grail Rabbit memes to taste)

 

[Jaylem]

Imagine, if you will, that an Insectoid species, such as Locusts, became the dominant entity on our planet - evolving to the point that they spread to the stars. Their technology and life view would naturally be as alien to our world view as the Thargoids seem to us. They have developed a methodology of resource extraction and colonisation that operates on a grand timescale, focusing on the needs of the Hive or even the entire species above the needs of the individual.

For millennia, they go about their lives - fulfilling their evolutionary needs. Until, one day, they discover that some mammalian evolutionary offshoot has started encroaching on their territory. While these strange, short-lived creatures offer no threat - they are ignored... or looked on with curiosity or analysed for any potential threat. But once the mammalians start to interfere with the natural order of Thargoid existence, measures have to be taken.

We are, in effect, the fluffy Bunnies that hop around near the farmer's vegetable patch - not a real threat until we start burrowing into Thargoid Giles' prize marrows and cabbages. Worse still - we gave THEM myxomatosis and started fighting back. The evolved Locusts have a plague of Humanity on their hands... AND THESE BUNNIES BITE!

Right now the Thargoids are busy searching for their Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch...

(Insert Python's Holy Grail Rabbit memes to taste)

[video=youtube;TnOdAT6H94s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnOdAT6H94s[/video]

 

[Jmanis]

Oh come on, you can do better than that.

Here let me try.

The Thargoid narrative is a giant con. It's a misdirection straight out of the Hans Gruber playbook.

The Interceptors aren't hostile unless you are packing Guardian weaponry, carrying their tech or engage them.

The wreckage sites are all military. Every threat 5 USS that spawns in the Plaeides contains military cargo and the Goids have finished off the would be attackers in self defence.
We encountered Scouts after the interceptors. We encountered Scouts after the Prison ship had been picked clean and the Thargoids started taking escape pods.

I believe the Scouts are piloted by human /Thargoid engineered bioconstructs. For the last few years we have seen mysterious medical transports carrying cargo pods and performance enhancers / scientific research around the bubble. I believe these were the early attempts to turn the otherwise passive Thargoids into more aggressive pilots.

The Scouts are the result of this now successful program.

Many people have already mentioned that the Eagle Eye early warning system points towards the beacons which are deployed by aegis and these beacons draw in the Thargoids and the Human/Thargoid scouts which then lay waste to whatever they are directed to in the mindless manner in which insects react to danger stimulation.

Why are "They" doing this?

Have you ever been out to the Pleiades nebula and counted the number of mega ships which have been attacked?

I've been a Pirate for many years and I know a looting when I see one.

I don't know the whys and the how's but I'm telling you the Thargoids are mindless pawns in this game and you lot have swallowed the misdirection hook line and sinker.


What do you think?
Hope I didn't rush it too much?

Repped for talking about Hans Gruber.

 

[Magichp]

This does not deny the fact that the guardians might have bioengineered them.

The fact that they are older than the Guardians as explained in recent logs (from 3.2 I think? Not sure, I stopped playing a while ago) killed that possibility.
As others said, they are mostly a very old (several million years) spacefaring locust swarm of doom

 

[Jaylem]

The fact that they are older than the Guardians as explained in recent logs (from 3.2 I think? Not sure, I stopped playing a while ago) killed that possibility.
As others said, they are mostly a very old (several million years) spacefaring locust swarm of doom

really wish the game reflected on that, rather than being a plague, they are more like an 'endangered species' that needs kil… uhh saving!

I want to see systems so chock full of the things that you can't even drop out of supercruise before they start jumping you.

And yes, Thargoids and Guardians are two very different species, these vessels are just automated so they don't risk an incident like the last time they crossed humanity...and received a Mycoid blast where the sun don't shine that apparently devastated them. It will however be likely we will see piloted vessels in the future when they are sure they have tested the water.

 

[Th3 0utKa5t]

Imagine, if you will, that an Insectoid species, such as Locusts, became the dominant entity on our planet - evolving to the point that they spread to the stars. Their technology and life view would naturally be as alien to our world view as the Thargoids seem to us. They have developed a methodology of resource extraction and colonisation that operates on a grand timescale, focusing on the needs of the Hive or even the entire species above the needs of the individual.

For millennia, they go about their lives - fulfilling their evolutionary needs. Until, one day, they discover that some mammalian evolutionary offshoot has started encroaching on their territory. While these strange, short-lived creatures offer no threat - they are ignored... or looked on with curiosity or analysed for any potential threat. But once the mammalians start to interfere with the natural order of Thargoid existence, measures have to be taken.

We are, in effect, the fluffy Bunnies that hop around near the farmer's vegetable patch - not a real threat until we start burrowing into Thargoid Giles' prize marrows and cabbages. Worse still - we gave THEM myxomatosis and started fighting back. The evolved Locusts have a plague of Humanity on their hands... AND THESE BUNNIES BITE!

Right now the Thargoids are busy searching for their Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch...

(Insert Python's Holy Grail Rabbit memes to taste)

1. 2. 5...... 3 sir......3

 

[ExoForce]

Thargoid species is a colonial organism. Interceptors and scouts are specialized creatures, basic form is the thargoid sensor.

Sensors, links, probes and possibly 1 more type are delivered in Mother-ships (TS hive).
Mother-ships are not Interceptor carriers.
Scouts are much older specie (originals). They evolved to two new species (variants of Interceptors) that are in war now.
Think wasps and hornets.

 

[[VR] Deggial]

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Many people have already mentioned that the Eagle Eye early warning system points towards the beacons which are deployed by aegis and these beacons draw in the Thargoids and the Human/Thargoid scouts which then lay waste to whatever they are directed to in the mindless manner in which insects react to danger stimulation.
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I don't know the whys and the how's but I'm telling you the Thargoids are mindless pawns in this game and you lot have swallowed the misdirection hook line and sinker.


What do you think?
Hope I didn't rush it too much?

I don't think, I'll believe in the rest of your plot. But with this one, I tend to agree.

I think, the beacons are just like the 'plumpers' in 'Dune'. They attract Thargoids in the same way as the later attract sand worms.

All the previous Aegis research might have been an attempt to find a way to manipulate the Thargoid hive mind. To find the equivalent to the pheromons that are used by an ant queen to guide her children.
They finally succeded and they use their knowledge. But to which purpose, I have no idea.
Simply in order to cover some pirate activities seems to be a bit ... excessive. I believe, they aim for more. Much more!
I am curious to find out, what is is.

 

[Factabulous]

Many people have already mentioned that the Eagle Eye early warning system points towards the beacons which are deployed by aegis and these beacons draw in the Thargoids and the Human/Thargoid scouts which then lay waste to whatever they are directed to in the mindless manner in which insects react to danger stimulation.

.... and they put 'beacons' next to their own megaships because ....

(don't worry, I'll wait )

 

[Saool]

Here is my theory: Thargoid interceptors and scouts are the product of the genetic engineering of the guardians. Or possibly their corrupted AI. For warfare.

why? Because in the logs Ram Tah mentions the guardians's prowess at bioengineering and there are no escape pods or pilots visible inside the interceptors.

FDEV PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE IF I PREDICTED YOUR NARRATIVE!!!

It's been speculated several times before. It does not add up and is full of holes. It also ignores lots of evidence to the contrary. So I think it is highly unlikely.

Oh come on, you can do better than that.

Here let me try.

The Thargoid narrative is a giant con. It's a misdirection straight out of the Hans Gruber playbook.

The Interceptors aren't hostile unless you are packing Guardian weaponry, carrying their tech or engage them.

The wreckage sites are all military. Every threat 5 USS that spawns in the Plaeides contains military cargo and the Goids have finished off the would be attackers in self defence.
We encountered Scouts after the interceptors. We encountered Scouts after the Prison ship had been picked clean and the Thargoids started taking escape pods.

I believe the Scouts are piloted by human /Thargoid engineered bioconstructs. For the last few years we have seen mysterious medical transports carrying cargo pods and performance enhancers / scientific research around the bubble. I believe these were the early attempts to turn the otherwise passive Thargoids into more aggressive pilots.

The Scouts are the result of this now successful program.

Many people have already mentioned that the Eagle Eye early warning system points towards the beacons which are deployed by aegis and these beacons draw in the Thargoids and the Human/Thargoid scouts which then lay waste to whatever they are directed to in the mindless manner in which insects react to danger stimulation.

Why are "They" doing this?

Have you ever been out to the Pleiades nebula and counted the number of mega ships which have been attacked?

I've been a Pirate for many years and I know a looting when I see one.

I don't know the whys and the how's but I'm telling you the Thargoids are mindless pawns in this game and you lot have swallowed the misdirection hook line and sinker.


What do you think?
Hope I didn't rush it too much?

This has also been speculated a few times and is far more likely. However, again I don't think is the truth, although there may be parts of it that are, or have happened.

Here is what it is in reality of Elite Universe.

The origin of Thargoids is still a mistery. They are more than 2 million years old. Much older than Guardians. Guardian AI was never corrupted. It become sentient at one point and decided to eliminate a threat to them (guardians) to establish their own civilization. And they did. And we just triggered them already. And many months or year latter (in whatever update) will see their reaction to our presence in the galaxy.

Thargoid interceptors and scouts are just biomechanical advanced machines - as an answer to Guardian strategy in war. Interceptor was created to scan everything in search of guardian tech and eliminate it. It was designed with idea to be damaged, but still be able to fight guardians military machines. That's why it have lightning strike after first heart is damaged and EMP to defect guardian machines offensive capabilities. However, thargons was never mentioned in Guardian - Thargoid conflict. Guardians defeated thargoids in this conflict and forced them to retreat.

My guess - thargons is their own adaptation against humans.

I noticed that some pilots in the thread are wondering why are they doing it.

Well, their motivation is pretty easy to explain. They seeded this whole region of space more than 3 thousands years ago. All they want now is their own space. How to determine which one of our space is actually theirs? Just look for ammonia world in the system. If system have such planet, there is 90% chance that thargoids marked it as a target.
What they think about us? Pretty much nothing. We can't do anything to them, we can't stop them. We can only win some time, and they are aware of it. They also use our weakness in society (Far God cult and others + Galnet).

Are they trying to eliminate us as a species? No they don't. In fact not even trying. They only want something that is theirs.

They will not touch SOL or any other important to Humanity systems. Cause they simply have no purpose to them or resources.

There is a chance however for SOL attack because of Aegis provocation on thargoids (Aegis core moved to SOL).

Overall the war is still not happened. It's just a local territorial conflict for now. And thargoids never put the whole system into crysis. They only trying to force system to retreat. With as less casualties as possible.

Are they good? No. Are we good? No.

Are we started this conflict? Yes.

Should you participate in this conflict? It's your call. But thargoids don't really care.

This is very likely to be what is actually happening and I think is a pretty solid synopsis.

 

[[VR] Deggial]

.... and they put 'beacons' next to their own megaships because ....

(don't worry, I'll wait )

Pawns in an intergalactic game of chess?

 

[CMDR Dreamstate]

Here is my theory: Thargoid interceptors and scouts are the product of the genetic engineering of the guardians. Or possibly their corrupted AI. For warfare.

why? Because in the logs Ram Tah mentions the guardians's prowess at bioengineering and there are no escape pods or pilots visible inside the interceptors.

FDEV PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE IF I PREDICTED YOUR NARRATIVE!!!

Sorry bud this was debunked by all the new lore earlier in the year.