Heat Build-up and Mist Over Planets

Rafe Zetter

Banned
All of the above is why ED is contrary to itself on so many levels - simulated X - handwavium Y - and why many players have and keep asking the same questions over and over about this kind of stuff.

It's either newtonian physics or it isn't - high STRESSES on the ships frame - sure thing, but I'm guessing they can't or won't simulate that because then the players will complain they can't perform 90deg turns without splitting thier ship in half, so instead inertia and frame integrity under high G LOADING, doesn't exist.

I can only assume the heat generated on or over planets is the placeholder for atmospheric worlds - I think the explanations of "heat generated from thrusters for manouvres" holds no merit, because as you say OP - nothing is generated in space when high G moves are performed. I would sort of buy the explanation of "weak thrusters getting DAMAGE, while fighting high G conditions" - but then why can you scoop from a star with no problems? - Add to that your neutron star question pretty much dropkicks anyones explanation of "coz physics" into a cocked hat. There's nothing that can withstand the gravity well of a neutron star - they are literally just 1 step away from becoming black holes with a teaspoons mass equalling 1 BILLION TONNES, give or take, and it's beam is the universes most dangerous microwave with the ability to turn an ENTIRE PLANET planet into ash - the deathstar made real... and yet.

yet - you can just take a calm stroll, right through it's ejection, repeatedly.

but a beam laser can tear your ship to shreds.......... right........ ok...

(I wonder if the OP knows what space cakes are? - possibly a little young for that)

Edit - question: how do you pronounce you name phonetically? chay-tid-uh? (gaelic?)
 
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so hmmmm
cant answer the questions about atmospheric impacts on heat

but
my thrusters are off when glide, theres no heat
i drop, level to zero, any grav, there is no heat

dam now i know why my pizza is cooling that fast - gonna try next time
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Also, second question: while I'm over a planet at low speed (i.e. glide is complete), how and why does my ship build up heat pulling turns that, in space, wouldn't affect it at all? It clearly isn't friction, because there's no atmosphere, and gravity is unlikely to be the cause as the turns I'm pulling in space likely generate enough of that to easily offset the tiny gravity of most of the worlds we can land on. Anybody got any ideas?

(Also also: 'Glide'? What're we gliding through, anyway?)


Hi Ceitidh, thruster heat generation on planets has been explained by the devs on a few occasions. The planetary approach suite has a few functions, one of which is to reconfigure the thrusters cooling system and power output, the term used is overcharged. When in an overcharged state, power & cooling is diverted to the main and ventral thrusters (weakening all other thrusters) Heat buildup occurs not only from normal flights, but can also rise rapidly when performing maneuvers.

Glide is just the term used for riding the FSD bubble down to the surface at the drop speed (2500m/s) As long as you keep pitch between -6 to -60 degrees you'll remain in glide.

Just as a side note, you can match and exceed glide speed in normal space (On high G planets) The ship flight dynamics will behave the same as glide once it is above 2500 m/s

Mist around certain planets? I was under the impression it was just gasses being held by the planets gravity
 
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(I wonder if the OP knows what space cakes are? - possibly a little young for that)
Pah! I only wish...! :D


Yes. Yes, I do know. I mean, obviously, I wouldn't partake, obviously. That should be obvious. It'd be most improper. Unseemly.


/looks left and right all shifty-like


Fancy a brownie? :p


Edit - question: how do you pronounce you name phonetically? chay-tid-uh? (gaelic?)
Just "Katie". It is Scottish Gaelic, yes, and I'm sorry to say that it's one of only a tiny handful of Gaelic (either one) words I know.


My Welsh and Cornish aren't too hot, either. It's something I keep meaning to try to remedy but I've never had much of a facility with languages. :(


dam now i know why my pizza is cooling that fast - gonna try next time
Pizza, you want? Well, hang around the next planet I'm trying to land on: pizza's usually how my ship ends up. Can't seem to get used to Clippers being really, really heavy and slow to pull out of a descent. :)


But just do a google search..... Good luck avoiding the bad luck
I HAVE PARADOX ISSUES NOW.


Hi Ceitidh, thruster heat generation on planets has been explained by the devs on a few occasions. The planetary approach suite has a few functions, one of which is to reconfigure the thrusters cooling system and power output, the term used is overcharged. When in an overcharged state, power & cooling is diverted to the main and ventral thrusters (weakening all other thrusters) Heat buildup occurs not only from normal flights, but can also rise rapidly when performing maneuvers.


Glide is just the term used for riding the FSD bubble down to the surface at the drop speed (2500m/s) As long as you keep pitch between -6 to -60 degrees you'll remain in glide.


Just as a side note, you can match and exceed glide speed in normal space (On high G planets) The ship flight dynamics will behave the same as glide once it is above 2500 m/s


Mist around certain planets? I was under the impression it was just gasses being held by the planets gravity
You mean... like an atmosphere?


:p


I'm sorry; I'm sorry. I couldn't resist. But I do actually know what you're saying and I appreciate the advice, thank you. :)


So, um... Too many smilies, do you think? I have been known to overindulge.
 

Rafe Zetter

Banned
I like that answer Katie-in-garlic - I like it a lot.

Not too many smilies, I'd say proportional to the happy fun feeling.

still want to know how your name sounds in gaelic.

Those particular brownies and associated items give me a horrible reaction; really really bad, someone's suggested I'm allergic it's that bad.

*sheepish like*..can we be friends?
 
I like that answer Katie-in-garlic - I like it a lot.

Not too many smilies, I'd say proportional to the happy fun feeling.
Glad to hear it. :)

still want to know how your name sounds in gaelic.
Literally like that: Katie. Though, that said, a proper speaker of the language might make it sound a little different, and the accent's going to have an effect too, I'd guess... But basically that's it.

Those particular brownies and associated items give me a horrible reaction; really really bad, someone's suggested I'm allergic it's that bad.
It's possible. I had a friend once who indulged quite heavily in his younger days - but only briefly, as it turned out the... brownie's, um, active ingredient... actually didn't have any noticeable effect on him at all. He was most peeved.

*sheepish like*..can we be friends?
Of course! Friends is good. You'll find me in the galaxy as Ceitidh Drowe, though I tend to fly rather solo as a rule. It's nothing personal. :)
 
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