Help! Previous route plotting failed

Enrogue · Mar 6, 2018

So I'm on my way to Beagle Point, 14145 light years to go. I went out for groceries, and when I came back online all I'm getting is route plotting failed even though before logging out I had a route plotted all the way to Beagle Point. No settings changed. But now no matter what, it won't succeed in calculating a route to Beagle Point or any system nearby. Flying an AspE with 55+ ly range on full tank.

What gives, what can I do? Anything?

Take a break from Elite? That's starting to sound like a pretty good idea... [haha]

Argend · Mar 6, 2018

Try to open you galaxy map and let it "reset" the route. See if that works.

Bob McBobblehead · Mar 6, 2018

Interesting, looks like FDev might have added a cluster of permit locked systems. Move to your destination 1000ly at a time toward Beagle Point to find what is blocking you. This stuff might be note worthy for future Guardian research.

Enrogue · Mar 6, 2018

As I said, I tried several times and to nearby systems. I tried as far out from BP as 7k lys, still not able. EDIT: Found a spot I can plot to, some 4k from BP but to the side, and can't seem to find anything closer.

As for some other explanation than bugs, I fear you're being much too optimistic. I am trying out different plots but how on earth do you suppose the permit locks would have changed while I was out without any server updates or such. I just came home, I had a route plotted after this mornings downtime.

So strange. It's bugs. Kinda tiresome.

Enrogue · Mar 6, 2018

Yea now have found spots where it can plot that are on the other side of the area where it couldn't plot just previously....... No permit locks. I'd say the route plotter is borked.

Aashenfox · Mar 6, 2018

I'd still be tempted to take a straight line along my original course 1000ly at a time, to see if I came across anything worth coming across, or any kind of possible explanation for route plotting oddness. Just pretend we're pre 2.4

Enrogue · Mar 6, 2018

You guys so optimistic... Such vigour.

No. It is broken. Even pinpointed the spot, somewhat, where it's broken at. No permit locks, and distance between the previous succesful plot destination and the system where it failed to clearly far less than the jump range of 55+ lys. In case anyone is wondering, the last successful plot destination is M type, so scoopable. Shouldn't be the end of the line.

Yea okay. Bye bye Elite, let me know when you get better. I'll tell Civilization VI you said hi.

Mengy · Mar 6, 2018

The plotter isn't perfect, it often has issues in areas of low star density. When out in deep dpace, and especially when crossing between the galactic arms, you will need to plot in lengths shorter than 20K lys. Often all the way down to 1K or even less, just like we used to. The new plotter CAN calculate much farther routes but deep down its still the same old plotter with the same old limitations.

That's just what exploring is in Elite. No offense but if needing to plot short hops to cross low density areas makes you quit the game, then why are you out near Beagle Point? :S

Enrogue · Mar 6, 2018

Are you guys all drunk or what??? Can you understand; I went out for a while, and the previously successful route to BP didn't go through anymore! Nothing changed, no server downtime! Get it?!? Jeez...

LoL dafuq guys?? Alright you all know what; let's say it works as intended and everything is FINE. If I can't trust my route plotter to manage same routes on different boots (which didn't help either) I might as well stop plotting. And so I did.

You all seem to think this is something wrong with my attitude or something. For gods sake... Go try it out for yourself, please. You'll feel right smart afterwards, I have a feeling.

EDIT: Please, take a look at the screenshots. If you can't see the problem, there is something wrong with your ability to read the galaxy map.

Nick Sticks · Mar 6, 2018

Listen to Mengy and the other posts. Nobody is not believing you, just offering advice and work arounds.
Maybe something did change in the update we had today and you are the first to find it.
If you are wanting to get to Beagle Point carry on with smaller route plots, if not take a break and play Civ6.

Enrogue · Mar 6, 2018

Yea no one might not be not believing me (lol), but no one is really getting it. The problem. Which is funny. Given the crowd.

At this point it is; whatever. I am out for now. If no one is able to grasp a simple thing like a jump of around 20 lys being impossible for 55 ly AspE then I might as well bang my head against a wall. The most inane fact about the problem is that basically it appeared between game boots, could have happened while I was taking a leak. "No Sir, we can't plot to where we were going anymore. We just can't".

Going 50k lys to end up with this? Hahaha, funny joke.

I'm flabbergasted. Anyways, thanks for the replies even though it strongly felt no one understands the issue. Weird. Feels like a dream, lol. Cya around guys.

Stealthie · Mar 6, 2018

I trust the galmap about as much as I'd trust a hungry lion in a room full of zebras.

Part of exploring is paying attention to the stuff you don't intend to visit as well as the stuff you do.

If you're just going to plot a route to a destination 20Kly away and then honk-jump for 4 hours, you're not going to find exploration very rewarding.
Far better to just plot smaller journeys and take the opportunity to study the galmap for interesting places to visit.

As for what happened, my guess would be that you made a couple of jumps and reduced your fuel level and then plotted the route.
You then scooped to refuel, thus increasing the weight of your ship, which means your ship is now heavier than it was when the galmap calculated that you could make the required jumps.

Enrogue · Mar 6, 2018

Yea.... [big grin]

That logic would only work if the route was cut in the beginning. Alas, it isn't.

People telling me what exploring is... While being utterly ignorant of the issue I represent. Ungkh! I'm having a stroke!

I need to logg off, lol. Sorry guys.

Mengy · Mar 6, 2018

Enrogue said:
Yea no one might not be not believing me (lol), but no one is really getting it. The problem. Which is funny. Given the crowd.

At this point it is; whatever. I am out for now. If no one is able to grasp a simple thing like a jump of around 20 lys being impossible for 55 ly AspE then I might as well bang my head against a wall. The most inane fact about the problem is that basically it appeared between game boots, could have happened while I was taking a leak. "No Sir, we can't plot to where we were going anymore. We just can't".

Going 50k lys to end up with this? Hahaha, funny joke.

I'm flabbergasted. Anyways, thanks for the replies even though it strongly felt no one understands the issue. Weird. Feels like a dream, lol. Cya around guys.

We believe you, we know exactly what you are talking about, it happens all the time and particularly in areas like where you are flying. You just need to accept it and work around it, plot in smaller shorter increments and work towards your destination. It's not a big deal.

Exploration isn't about plotting 20K routes and just following it, sometimes you need to actually put some manual work and thought into it. Welcome to deep space!

IndigoWyrd · Mar 6, 2018

I had a similar issue not that long ago trying to climb onto the roof (top of the galactic plane).
I did make it though, but there were a few times where I simply had to select a destination from the Navigation pane, jump and return the Galaxy map to plot again.

And if you are wondering what's up there...

Nothing. And a frisbee I lost a long time ago.

Magic147147 · Mar 6, 2018

Just chill out and have a sandwich.

Leadfoot · Mar 6, 2018

I'm wondering if possibly you refueled at a star and increased your mass beyond your jump range. I had that happen recently. There's a slider in your plotter that says how far you want to be able to jump. Might check that and see if it was set just a hair too high.