Yeah I tried combat in a system way outside my class, did figure it out just had to drop their shields and keep them busy while my buddys shot missiles at them that took about 8 deaths... ill stick around SOL seems easy, I wish people would have been trying to kill me, at least its something because it feels a lot like single player still... Just no real direction once you get the boot except the engineer pop-ups... having the things they have to do means little when you know nothing about them lol CMDR Trailerpark flying the Comie Dodger ill shoot back or run or die that's life, i have report crimes against me off if that helps Viper3 now, thats the lowest im willing to go for maneuvering till I get enough for the really expensive ones... Thanks for the tips. about to smash into a station....