Help with ASP Explorer mining build

[SupermanSA777]

Hi

I would like to build a ASP X for mining, but don't know what to put in for mining. Never did mining before. Can someone please help?

 

[Mr Fad]

Someone posted this link to a vid yesterday which covers most things including an asp build the vid is using quite an old elite build tho!

I'm not sure about a Frontier one, but this one is pretty good. Chaoswulffe's Ultimate Mining Tutorial.

https://youtu.be/EkU-1SJ_7a4

Ignore any old UI.

 

[Teh Smoo]

Not a super-optimal ship for it.

https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/asp...18WQ==.Aw18WQ==..EweloBhBmVZApgQwOYBsEhARgnoA is a starting point, you have to make some hard choices. If you want a 10-bin refinery, it's going to cost you cargo, and there's no size 4 slot. If you want more limpets, you're going to have to give up something else as well. Engineering can help a little, but not much.

Python is probably the best smallest mining ship, with extra space for survivability.

How do you feel about Type 7? https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/typ...==.Aw18aQ==..EweloBhBmUEY6gKYEMDmAbJIRwvoA=== That build is 36m, you can fiddle with it a bit, engineer things as well. You can go down to a 3A powerplant if you engineer it heavily, for instance.

 

[YinYin]

Essential: mining lasers to generate fragments.
The medium ones are most efficient. The Asp can sustain one, but you can add a second and let the distributor drain.

Essential: refinery to refine fragments.
You want at least 3 bins that can be matched to the current asteroid you are mining. Everything more is convenience.
Be aware that a 2A refinery offers more bins than an equivalent cargo rack, while a 4A offers less bins than an equivalent cargo rack.
(bins are capacity - I would opt for overall more rather than wasting energy on convenience)

An A grade prospector limpet controller for maximum fragment yield per asteroid.
Class 1 will suffice. If you want to use them to find asteroids quickly as well a larger class that allows more active ones will increase your prospecting rate.

The best power distributor you can get for maximum mining laser time.
If you want to be better than A grade, charge enhanced modifications are the best.

One active collector limpet per WEP megawatt. Maybe a few more so you don't have to position yourself too perfectly.
D grade will suffice since fragments are always created within 500 m mining laser range.

Thrusters. You will have to move between and around asteroids a lot. You don't want that to take too much time, so take the best.

A grade power plant. Mining lasers generate a lot of heat. This will handle it best.

Shields and double chaff. Even if you don't anticipate hostile encounters you will most likely run into them eventually. Better safe than sorry.

Cargo racks to bring limpets and refine bins into.


The rest (FSD/weapons/boosters/...) as you need it.

https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/asp...wBjrAmaeO/PIA==..EweloBhBmSQUwIYHMA28QgIwV0A=

How do you feel about Type 7?

Worst miner out there. Don't do it.

 

[Teh Smoo]

Better collection limpet controllers last longer.

I've only mined in a Python, WHY is the Type7 bad at mining? It looks decent on paper, more or less.

 

[YinYin]

Better collection limpet controllers last longer.

A vs D is only a 2 minute increase. At the pace you can mine things you will not notice that difference (material comes in faster than you can expend cheap limpets).

And should you either be mining in an extraction site or using lasers to prospect asteroids the additional range will cause you a lot of trouble (collectors flying far away and probably destroying themselves in the process > time being wasted/cut short).

I've only mined in a Python, WHY is the Type7 bad at mining? It looks decent on paper, more or less.

It only has small hard points, an undersized distributor and is very slow.

If you want to spend a long time collecting very little, go for it.

 

[Mr T]

Hint : If you're going to use collector limpets, you probably should also use a prospector limpet as it will give you a better yield than without.

 

[YinYin]

Hint : If you're going to use collector limpets, you probably should also use a prospector limpet as it will give you a better yield than without.

This is true regardless of collectors. My small ships have prospectors, but no collectors (my post up there is listed by order of importance for efficiency/rate - yes cargo space is least important).

 

[blitzfreigabe]

Is there any issue with using a T-9? I like the idea of the Python Miner, but am wondering what the most effective would be.

 

[YinYin]

Is there any issue with using a T-9? I like the idea of the Python Miner, but am wondering what the most effective would be.

The Python is better because of the power distributor alone. It's also faster between the asteroids.

But it's not as bad as the T7 for the price.

 

[blitzfreigabe]

For the Python, is it worth putting mining lasers in the L hard points and the M hard points?

 

[YinYin]

The distributor does 6.1 MW, so that's sustaining two mediums.

You can add a third medium in the large one below the nose, but that will drain the capacitor quickly.
If you charge enhance it, it can sustain all 3.

 

[Factabulous]

I run all 5 as mining lasers - they overheat, but at least waiting for them to cool down gives me something to do while I wait for the collectors

 

[blitzfreigabe]

would there be any benefit to slapping a couple of mine layers on for self defense should hostilities be unavoidable?

 

[Factabulous]

would there be any benefit to slapping a couple of mine layers on for self defense should hostilities be unavoidable?

The asteroids rarely shoot back - though I haven't tried mining an asteroid base yet ...

 

[YinYin]

would there be any benefit to slapping a couple of mine layers on for self defense should hostilities be unavoidable?

Mining lasers have a 4th of normal weapon range and do minimal damage. If hostiles are unavoidable you should weigh in whether you can defeat them or not to decide on weapons. Most of the time a good shield, double chaff and security ships are the best defence.

edit: misread that - mine layers don't really stick around long enough in my experience and they will cause you trouble if friendly ships run into them

The asteroids rarely shoot back - though I haven't tried mining an asteroid base yet ...

They shoot back just like normal space stations.

 

[Mr T]

would there be any benefit to slapping a couple of mine layers on for self defense should hostilities be unavoidable?

NPCs will turn up initially but if you have no cargo they will scan you and then leave you alone.

 

[Maymo]

would there be any benefit to slapping a couple of mine layers on for self defense should hostilities be unavoidable?

No, if you're close enough to an enemy to use a mine layer then you're already too close in a mining ship. A Python can kill things while mining but any ship below that should be trying to avoid combat to protect their investment.
Mining is quite peaceful overall, but after a number of experiments I wouldn't do it in anything smaller than a Python if you're interested in profit.
In my opinion mining is currently the least rewarding career choice in ED. I can make more profit in an Eagle with a few scanners than I can in a mining Corvette.

 

[Mr Fad]

No, if you're close enough to an enemy to use a mine layer then you're already too close in a mining ship. A Python can kill things while mining but any ship below that should be trying to avoid combat to protect their investment.
Mining is quite peaceful overall, but after a number of experiments I wouldn't do it in anything smaller than a Python if you're interested in profit.
In my opinion mining is currently the least rewarding career choice in ED. I can make more profit in an Eagle with a few scanners than I can in a mining Corvette.

Mining is the only thing I've not really tried on elite yet but I Deffo fancy trying it! Having recently found out about asteroid bases in some remote nebula I quite like the idea of a remote base mining as I explore probably using an asp.

Do pirate ships materialise from nowhere outside the bubble the minute you start mining or is it peaceful until you enter the system containing a station?

Had quite a shock in total Solitude for days and seeing a sudden rush of contacts the moment I entered an asteroid base system lol!

 

[Maymo]

Mining is the only thing I've not really tried on elite yet but I Deffo fancy trying it! Having recently found out about asteroid bases in some remote nebula I quite like the idea of a remote base mining as I explore probably using an asp.

Do pirate ships materialise from nowhere outside the bubble the minute you start mining or is it peaceful until you enter the system containing a station?

Had quite a shock in total Solitude for days and seeing a sudden rush of contacts the moment I entered an asteroid base system lol! ��

If you're out of the bubble then there's no pirate activity at all and you can drop in any ring you like. Unfortunately it means carrying excessive weight to get those materials back to sell and you can be interdicted again once you reach inhabited space.

I have no experience mining at the rare nebula bases. You'd have to check it out.