Help with L-ALT/choose stuff - in combat, especially

Comandante

Comandante
Dear CMDRs, 2nd post in one day. Miserable at getting toasted and not making any progress when it comes to shooting others!

I think this is an empty post - if you reply with "Git gud", then, yes, I need to do that.

Low-level CZs - for some reason - I can handle. It's the (take deep breath) "Someone left a 4-ping plug in a derelict crash site that should be guarded by 4 elite troops who have infinite oxygen that think 4-pin plugs are really important but have no opposable thumbs to be able to retrieve them but the marksmanship of a top-level warrior" I am having problems with.

Actually, they might be rubbish, but I am more rubbish, clearly.

So: I try to surprise them by throwing a grenade before they've seen me.

I press Left-ALT, cycle using WASD to select the grenade and... Nothing.

Hah! I know! I'll set up a shield defense! Tries L-ALT, WASD to appropriate marker, again, nothing. Same with trying to bust their shields before they've seen me.

Here's the joke: It's not until they've seen me that I attempt to try these again - but they massacre me before I've even had chance to my randomly jittering semi-opposable thumbs to try the same actions.

Have checked youtube, can't find any answers.

So: Can you NOT throw grenades until combat is initiated? Or am I doing something wrong?

I can do this with energy packs and medical kits (damn, I want to buy shares in medical kits the way I am going), yet for some reason shield busters, shield strengtheners and grenades don't work pre-combat. And yes, I have 100 of all the above. so I know I have got a bit of it right. And they're in my suit too so I know I have enough.

More of an explorer, less a combat person but at the moment the "importance" of these rubbish mounds is beginning to wear as thin as the tinfoil armor with a large target sign on it! Talking of which, I AM going in with the ('Flacid') dominator suit WITH shields on.

So all things checked, anyone have any (non"git gud") advice. BTW, at my age, twitch-based gittin'-gud is looking less and less likely.
 

Khromm

K
Check your keybinds - there's one for Throw Grenade (or Throw Item - not in game to check right now). The selection wheel side of things, you need to hold the item direction then release the wheel key (Left-ALT for you) to select the item; it'll use medpacks and energy cells, or select your grenade type that way, then use whatever key is bound to throw the selected 'nade. Personally not a big fan of the wheel myself, but it does work at least...

As for the grenades themselves... tbh they're probably more trouble than they're worth anyway at the moment, since there's no arc to tell you where it's going to initially hit the ground, let alone bounce, and in the heat of combat the animation takes long enough that if your target can see you, it's pretty much a free hit for them. Of course, YMMV ;)
 

Comandante

Comandante
Khromm said:
Check your keybinds - there's one for Throw Grenade (or Throw Item - not in game to check right now). The selection wheel side of things, you need to hold the item direction then release the wheel key (Left-ALT for you) to select the item; it'll use medpacks and energy cells, or select your grenade type that way, then use whatever key is bound to throw the selected 'nade. Personally not a big fan of the wheel myself, but it does work at least...

As for the grenades themselves... tbh they're probably more trouble than they're worth anyway at the moment, since there's no arc to tell you where it's going to initially hit the ground, let alone bounce, and in the heat of combat the animation takes long enough that if your target can see you, it's pretty much a free hit for them. Of course, YMMV ;)
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That was it :)

New to all this shooty-gun stuff, thanks for pointing out such an obvious thing!
 
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