help with near Orion nebula identification

S0rkvild

S0rkvild
This a view taken by an external camera nearly directly one thousand light years above The Orion Nebula. From the left we see The Witch Head, The Running Man, The Flame, The Orion Complex with the Barnard's Loop, The Horse Heads and... another huge nebula on the right and smallish nebula within, both could be 500 ly away from the Orion and not connected to the Orion Nebula by any "loops or arms". So what is that mighty red cloud over there on the right? You can see it from the external camera, but it is not present on the Universal Cartograhics map. Pinpointing any stars won't work there because of the region lock. What do you think?

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Zieman

Zieman
No idea, would need the system and even then by your description, it migh not be visible in the Galaxy Map.
 

Maolagin

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That's most curious! The next nebula in that direction is the Cone Nebula (locked deep inside the restricted Col 97 Sector), but that's A) farther away, should be off the right side of this image, and B) a small compact nebula, not the extended object you're seeing here. I've looked down on Barnard's from that perspective on several occasions and not seen this. Looking closely, it almost seems to be an offset reflection of Barnard's, which would either be a rendering error or something new and odd going on with the simulated "glass" that surrounds the free camera.
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
I assume it's not simply a lensing effect from a black hole in your present system, generating a reverse-mirror-image of Barnard's loop?
 

S0rkvild

S0rkvild
Maolagin said:
That's most curious! The next nebula in that direction is the Cone Nebula (locked deep inside the restricted Col 97 Sector), but that's A) farther away, should be off the right side of this image, and B) a small compact nebula, not the extended object you're seeing here. I've looked down on Barnard's from that perspective on several occasions and not seen this. Looking closely, it almost seems to be an offset reflection of Barnard's, which would either be a rendering error or something new and odd going on with the simulated "glass" that surrounds the free camera.
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Sapyx said:
I assume it's not simply a lensing effect from a black hole in your present system, generating a reverse-mirror-image of Barnard's loop?
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According to my inara logbook and time stamp I took this image from either Outotz BU-A c29-0 or Outotz GX-I d10-1
I was on the way to Anaconda Graveyard and on the way back I took identical route stopping by in both of these sectors but the effect of "Orion twin nebula" was gone and everything looked quite normal.
 

S0rkvild

S0rkvild
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Another one. Outotz BU-A c29-0 Made a few Ls from my carrier and sun. Slightly different angle so the ghost red cloud is on the left.
 
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Zieman

Zieman
S0rkvild said:
Where is it? In this sector? Black holes only distort while in sector.
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True dat, you'd need one small high gravity well (black hole, neutron star, white dwarf) in the very system you're in, to see the lensing effect.
What's causing the effect in your case, when no such entity in system, I don't know.
Fleet Carrier engines?
 
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