Hey FD: How about this for helping to reduce VR sickness?

Thebadmf · Jun 16, 2016

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36550369

I suffer from pretty strong motion sickness when using the SRV. The current options help but are jarring, this could be an interesting alternative don't you think?

dutchy2000 · Jun 16, 2016

Yeah I get terrible car sickness like symptoms myself when driving the SRV in VR, I can do it for like 5-10 minutes at a time max. So if I go planet prospecting, I switch to 2d mode so I can do it for longer periods of time.

UniMag · Jun 16, 2016

I seem pretty immune but did feel a tad queasy playing Adr1ft the first time around

shadragon · Jun 16, 2016

When you start off in an SRV with an HMD, go slow. Get used to it. Take your time, use flat terrain where possible and keep your eyes on the Horizon (no pun intended.)

You need to train your brain. Once you get used to it, you'll be tearing around like a mad man.

HeavyGroovez · Jun 16, 2016

Yeah extended periods of SRV in low G atmospheres where the buggy slews around a lot can make me feel rough and i spend upwards of 5-6 hours a day in the Rift

Soda Popinski · Jun 16, 2016

Dramamine?

vizvayu · Jun 16, 2016

Yes I hope they do something about it, I too get terribly sick every time I use the SRV. It's so bad that I'm removing the hangar from all of my ships until it's fixed.

Soda Popinski · Jun 16, 2016

vizvayu said:
Yes I hope they do something about it, I too get terribly sick every time I use the SRV. It's so bad that I'm removing the hangar from all of my ships until it's fixed.

Have you turned on the anti-motion sickness settings? There's a setting to keep the horizon level and another setting to fade to black if you start rolling.

vizvayu · Jun 17, 2016

Soda Popinski said:
Have you turned on the anti-motion sickness settings? There's a setting to keep the horizon level and another setting to fade to black if you start rolling.

I did but unfortunately that's not enough. In most planets the movement of the SRV is like a small boat in rough seas. I always end up sick and I have to stop playing for several hours.

[HJ]-RedRaven · Jun 17, 2016

I can't wait for VR, but part of me is dreading the potential nausea.

ED is classified as "Intense" - does it warrant that description? I'm sure it does, but I wonder why the SRV seems to cause more problems than being in space? You'd think you'd suffer worse in space where there's no "up", "down" etc, no frame of reference at all.

Hopefully I'll be able to acclimatise to the sensation

I never got motion sick in any game though.

vizvayu · Jun 17, 2016

[HJ]-RedRaven said:
I can't wait for VR, but part of me is dreading the potential nausea.

ED is classified as "Intense" - does it warrant that description? I'm sure it does, but I wonder why the SRV seems to cause more problems than being in space? You'd think you'd suffer worse in space where there's no "up", "down" etc, no frame of reference at all.

Hopefully I'll be able to acclimatise to the sensation I never got motion sick in any game though.

Don't worry you won't get sick in space. At first is a bit disorienting but after a little while you get used to it. It's like flying a jet I suppose, up to some extent at least. It takes some time to get used to the loops and rolls.
SRV is another story.... I don't know exactly why, it may be the feeling of bouncing around up an down all the time, the repetition up and down over and over again... just remembering that feeling makes me sick. Horrible feeling. I asked for an hovercraft in the suggestion forums but I don't know if FD are ever going to make one. I'd love exploring planets, but right now with the SRV is absolutely impossible to me.

Wolfox · Jun 17, 2016

In the SRV, put all your pipes to SYS and WEP, this will make you go slow.
Yesterday I stayed some hours on a planet surface, for the sentries that appeared I run back to the ship and do the bad work. Until the HMD got Frozen while three pirates destroyed my ship :-(

CylonSurfer · Jun 17, 2016

That solution sounds horrid OP. I have no objections to it being included in games for those who need it though, I would be bitterly disappointing to see VR games developed around it. "Hey we have fixed VR by making it less VR" - classic.

[VR] Deggial · Jun 17, 2016

I still opt for GVS (Galvanic Vestibular Stimulation).

"Do it!", Oculus (= implement it in CV2) and "Do it!" FDev (= provide the necessary output data)!

Muzz UK · Jun 17, 2016

Sorry can't help no sickness, blurring or after effects from hours and hours of VR!

Khaldur · Jun 17, 2016

Don't be surprised that activities that would very likely make you sick in real life (driving fast over a very bumpy surface) make you sick in VR, too.

The solution is very simple, but requires some patience: Slow down in rough terrain! Activating the mode where ED automatically keeps the horizon level helps, too (and doesn't take away from immersion to my surprise) but still the most important thing is to simply cut the throttle.

Avago Earo · Jun 17, 2016

Deggial said:
I still opt for GVS (Galvanic Vestibular Stimulation).

I just looked that up. If it could be synchornised to apparent movement from the game and/or controller inputs then, I think it could work. I've not idea how complicated or expensive this would be but 'fooling' the inner ear to correspond with sensory input would, it seems, solve the problem.

[VR] Deggial · Jun 17, 2016

Avago Ero said:
... If it could be synchornised to apparent movement from the game and/or controller inputs then, I think it could work. ...

Oh, it DOES work!

Unfortunately, ED currently doesn't provide the necessary output, as far as I know - which makes more "traditional" gear like hydraulic chairs impossible, too.

Additionally, I imagine some sort of resistence in the broader public. Electricity conducted through the head is not an idea everybody does enjoy - even if the involved electric current is really low...
As much as I would love this, I don't see Oculus will take this risk.

Thebadmf · Jun 17, 2016

[HJ]-RedRaven said:
I can't wait for VR, but part of me is dreading the potential nausea.

ED is classified as "Intense" - does it warrant that description? I'm sure it does, but I wonder why the SRV seems to cause more problems than being in space? You'd think you'd suffer worse in space where there's no "up", "down" etc, no frame of reference at all.

Hopefully I'll be able to acclimatise to the sensation I never got motion sick in any game though.

For me, flight is fine. Only the SRV gives nausea, even with the two anti sickness options on.
That said, the first time I took of from a landing pad it did feel like I was moving (In a good way).

vizvayu · Jun 17, 2016

Khaldur said:
Don't be surprised that activities that would very likely make you sick in real life (driving fast over a very bumpy surface) make you sick in VR, too.

The solution is very simple, but requires some patience: Slow down in rough terrain! Activating the mode where ED automatically keeps the horizon level helps, too (and doesn't take away from immersion to my surprise) but still the most important thing is to simply cut the throttle.

Unfortunately that's not a solution for me. If I drive fast I get sick in about 1 minute. If I drive REALLY slow, about the minimum speed of the SRV (which feels like crawling) I can hold maybe about 2 or 3 minutes before getting sick. So it doesn't really help.
Maybe the solution explained in the OP could help, and of course it could be optional.

PS: A hovercraft would definitely help too