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mbabbs

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AaronTee said:
You've all got good points about this, although, I was attacked by a normal NPC, not a cop. I had another occasion where I was attacking a wanted NPC and a cop flies right in front of me and BOOM, now I'm wanted. I know that is a bit harder to code out, but still, getting attacked and not being able to defend one's self is not on. I will try this option about reporting crimes against me though, I didn't even think about that. I'll be in touch later. Thanks everyone
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If you have wanted status then you are a free target to anyone. Imagine if you were an outlaw in the wild west and a bounty hunter came after you. If you kill him your bounty will increase, despite him hunting you down and him shooting at you first. Also you don't get any reward, because he was legally entitled to kill you.

As for shooting at the police - yes its difficult, but you need to be more responsible with your trigger finger.
 
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CaptainKremmen

CaptainKremmen
Keeval said:
As you were "wanted" the clean NPC/player attacking you will not get a bounty/fine for engaging you. So when you fired back he/she will still be "Clean" and therefore your bounty will increase.

ETA: I'm not sure if this is the way it is supposed to work or not, as I'd expect you to have a right of retaliation if the other ship engaged you first. We'd need a Developer to clarify this though.
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This is exactly how it's supposed to work.

If you are CLEAN, and see a WANTED ship, you are legally clear to engage. If the target retaliates, their bounty increases, as they are firing illegally on a CLEAN ship (you).

If someone else (including an NPC) is CLEAN and sees you are WANTED, then they are legally clear to engage. If you retaliate, your bounty increases, as you are firing illegally on a CLEAN ship (them).


blueski said:
Its weird how you can pick up a bounty for a docking infraction, for which the punishment is death..
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DEATH!

"Remember,loitering, littering and using your fork upside down in the station cafeteria are capital offences!"
 

uncle bulgaria

uncle bulgaria
OP, you were wanted in that system which makes you fair game for bounty hunters, both NPC and human. If you're carrying a bounty in a system this is a risk you're carrying.

You get further fines for defending yourself from bounty hunters, if you don't want this then your only options are to clear the fine or avoid the system.
 

StayFrosty

StayFrosty
mbabbs said:
Its to prevent griefing.
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Indeed.

So instead, you can just bump into people in station sending them into a spin towards a landing pad, then they get fined, and then you can legally shoot them.

Only obvious offensive actions, or huge amounts of fines, should translate into a bounty, not the slightest infraction. As it stands, criminals can get away with it because they're constantly on the lookout for security, but the honest trader who accidentally becomes wanted will get shot down EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's clearly not protecting nor targeting the right people.
 

nuit

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I had a similar issue yesterday, did some bounty hunting. But only on ships from one faction in that system. I had crime reproting off. At some point I was attacked be 4 Sidewinders of that faction and they where not wanted and had no bounty.
I know that killing some one, even if they are wanted, will have a negative impact on your reputation with that faction. At that point i still was not hostile with that faction, i had no wanted status in the system, but they where hunting me.
I jumped out of the fight, went to the station of the faction and checked the authorities. No fines to pay, just red arrow on the reputation but not hostile.

I can imagine whats going on, I shoot ships of that faction, at some point they attacked me even I just shoot wanted ones. I had crime reporting of, so they stayed clean. When I fire back, I will get wanted status in the system which will not only have negative reputation on just one faction, but on the all factions and the FEDs.
I wonder, if I switch crime reporting on, after they started attack, will there systus change, so I can shoot back.

My advice, always check the faction of the ships your hunting, there are bad ons and worse ones and if you do it wrong, your the worst. And be sure when and where to turn on or off the crime reproting.

And I guess it sounds stupid, but I love that cause evey actions has an impact.
 

nuit

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uncle bulgaria said:
Yep, if you had "report crimes against me" turned on those ships should become wanted the moment they land a shot on you.
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Yeah thats nice, now need to find a system with three indepened factions and one feredal one. Wonder if i can improve my income by doing a last man standing thing ;)
 

nuit

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remosito said:
Not true!

He is a wanted criminal with a bounty on his head. And as such is fair game to anyone with a itchy trigger finger!
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The thing is, there was no bounty on my head. I did not shoot back, just headed to the station of that faction and checked, nothing to pay. At that point only my repution with that faction went worse, but still not hostile.
 

Jagax

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uncle bulgaria said:
Yep, if you had "report crimes against me" turned on those ships should become wanted the moment they land a shot on you.
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Why should they ? If he's wanted they can bounty hunt him without turning wanted the same as you can hunt wanted pireates without getting fines.
Like several others have said, a clear case with a wanted criminal getting attacked for the bounty. No self defense right for a criminal vs the law.

Edit:Quoting when you answer a question not posed by the OP is a good thing to avoid confusion
 
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AaronTee

AaronTee
Faerie said:
Looks to me like everything was working as intended. The game can be unforgiving, so the best advice I can give is that if you've had a "misunderstanding" with the law, you make it a (very) high priority to clear things up before they get worse.
Try to find an Outpost (rather than a space station) alligned to whatever faction you have upset. Outposts have no security patrols who might scan & attack you, so you should be OK to dock there & pay off any fines to clear your name.
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I know what you mean, the law in the game is, unlike reality, very black and white. In the case of docking, I can pull into a space station at full speed and dock within 10 seconds after. I have had LOTS of practice, so I never get scanned.
 

Kitiara

Kitiara
StayFrosty said:
Indeed.

So instead, you can just bump into people in station sending them into a spin towards a landing pad, then they get fined, and then you can legally shoot them.
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Except that inside the station is a no-fire zone (other than the station guns) so if you fire a shot, you die
 

Antidepressiva

Antidepressiva
AaronTee said:
I have just been attacked by a clean standing NPC. I have a wanted level due to a 'misunderstanding' with the law, but nonetheless, I waited to be attacked and then let rip on the guy. I killed him no worries but now have a huge bounty on my head.
He attacked me first, why do I get the bounty? It was self defence. Answer me this crew.
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Life as a lawless pirate is tough. Working as intended bro.
 
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