Hi, Returning Newbie Question please?
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Yeah, the whole open is full of murderhobos thing is utterly false.
Open is full of ignorant CMDRs who ignore you.
I've been playing exclusively in open for some time, and I only ever get attacked in Shinrarta Dezhra.
And that's mostly because I'm loitering looking for fights.
Engineer bases can be dangerous during peak times, but as I rarely get to play at peak times, I've never actually seen a hostile CMDR at one.
Most other systems are empty, or have CMDRs going about their business.
Open is full of ignorant CMDRs who ignore you.
I've been playing exclusively in open for some time, and I only ever get attacked in Shinrarta Dezhra.
And that's mostly because I'm loitering looking for fights.
Engineer bases can be dangerous during peak times, but as I rarely get to play at peak times, I've never actually seen a hostile CMDR at one.
Most other systems are empty, or have CMDRs going about their business.
Bovine excrement
( I guess the female players in open are 'Real Men' too?)
If you think with your grey matter (rather than being testosterone driven
) all modes are equally fun - try them all, and use them as seems fit at the time.
Elite: Dangerous is a game where we sit in our chairs looking at our monitors that are either sitting in front of us or strapped to our faces. Being shot down in Elite means you lose a bit of cash. It doesn't hurt to give Open a go, although I'd suggest a larger buffer of credits before you do.
If you like the thrill of fighting real players then you can join a PVP-orientated group who will give you tips about how to set up your fighter.
The game doesn't need to be symmetrical. Cargo hauling in Open is a game of "chase me". Escaping the clutches of a murderous pirate who's hell-bent on your death can feel just as rewarding as taking down a fellow pilot.
But Elite is a game where you set your own goals and play your own way. Playing in Solo is not necessarily playing in easy if the goals you have set yourself are challenging.
grow some skill, skill isnt your combat prowess , its your ability not to die , moveing to solo is like instead of faceing your problem you hide behind daddy FD
girls dont play vidya games , they dont poop eitherBovine excrement
( I guess the female players in open are 'Real Men' too?)
If you think with your grey matter (rather than being testosterone driven
Wrong. There's a bunch of carebears that like holding hands and singing Kumbaya. According to them, they're the waste majority.
i dont think they are the majority players , probably the majority of inactive accounts, whats safer than solo? Not playing thats what
True dat! During my 4 years of absence, I didn't die once!
Play Strategically
Like all games, Elite has its grind. If you only want to pvp in the best ships then be prepared for an intense time-commitment. If your goals are more flexible, you can avoid some grind and have fun. Here is the general advice I give to new pilots in my neck of the woods.
Previous to the Horizon: Beyond update, Elite had significant time, credit, and reputation gating. This was partly because it is a virtual world meant to be played indefinitely. It was also the fault of poor design in game mechanics and related balance problems. If you were hardcore, you could get through the gating with grind. If you were new you were hopelessly behind others without grind. And if you were a casual player, you had no hope whatsoever. In 2019, superior mining and exploration mechanics were introduced in Beyond, and these have significantly changed the landscape for new and casual players. So consider following these points of advice.
1. The learning curve is steep. Be patient with yourself. And do all your training missions!
2. Frontier has finally established a relatively protected zone for new pilots to start in Elite Dangerous. This was necessary to address the griefing a.k.a. “seal clubbing” of new players by long-established players. This was not legitimate pvp, but exploitation feeding the morally immature and the pathologies of certain individuals. When you receive a mission promoting you in combat, exploration, or trading rank, you’ll be able to leave the starter bubble but not return. When you do leave never log into the Open server until you are well outside the starter bubble. A few jumps away the density of griefers will decline precipitously.
3. If you want to play alone, stay in the Solo server. If you want to pvp with others, log into the Open server. If you want to play with others on a pve basis, join the private server Mobius. Mobius is the largest private group in Elite and rivals the size of Open.
4. Establish a single base of operations located near necessary resources and stations. Big population systems are obvious choices (e.g., Earth), but the use of third party tools will identify others.
5. Rank up with all the factions you can in system, and in other systems that trade with your system. As you rank up with those factions, your reputation improves. As that improves, you get better missions. With better missions you get more credits, reputation, etc.
6. As soon as you can start core mining. This is the most lucrative credit making opportunity in Elite, and is designed to be a skill-based and rewarding activity. Significantly, core mining can be done in most small ships, and quickly allows you to upgrade those ships to an AspX, Python, or Krait Phantom for maximum efficiency and payoff. MadProphet’s guide is linked in the resource section below.
7. Use the Road to Riches for exploration. This is a route of hundreds of high-value systems to scan that will quickly earn you reputation and credits. A link to the Road is in the resource section below.
8. Focus on working up to the best second tier ships you can. These do virtually everything that the third tier ships do. For example, focus on working up to an AspX (for exploration), a Krait Phantom (for smuggling), a Python (for medium trading and mining), a T-9 (for large trading), and FDL (for combat). This does not mean you’ll never get a third tier ship (i.e., Anaconda, Cutter, or Corvette), but unless you focus on credits from the get-go, it will take a very long time.
9. Engineer your ships and modules. Engineering in Elite is a form of crafting that allows you to make vast improvements in ship functionality.
10. Avoid Open pvp in the early game. Combat is an expensive time and credit sink even for the hard-core. If you do pvp as a casual player, be prepared to see your credit reserves dwindle rapidly. If you do want to pvp most of your time, choose your ships wisely (e.g., FDL) and watch out for developments with PowerPlay.
11. Join a squadron, create one with friends, or apply to create your own player faction. There is strength and wisdom in numbers, and they will help you thrive. A few of the better organizations I’m familiar with include:
12. Grab credit and reputation making opportunities whenever they arise. In the past rare-trading, smuggling, long-distance transport, skimmer missions, combat zones, and passenger missions were some of the examples that fit this bill. As of this writing, the credit meta is deep core mining. Unlike past meta, it appears Frontier plans to allow this source of credits to go un-nerfed.
13. Do not grind until your eyes bleed, but do look for ways to be efficient with your time. For instance, choose multiple missions from different factions to the same system, ferry the most rewarding passengers, trade the highest profit goods, or dispose of assassins sent to kill you before you start a trade run.
14. Frontier left out the informational and social tools needed in Elite. So third parties developed a wealth of tools you cannot do without. Of special note is Elite Dangerous Database, ED MarketConnector, INARA, Coriolis, EDBearing, and WaveScanner. So too search for tutorials on the web and youtube, and for informational discussions on the official forums and reddit. Visit Elite Dangerous Codex for a comprehensive list of all the amazing tools out there.
15. Finally, there is no endgame to win and no single storyline to follow. Elite is a virtual world in space (a cosmos) that fuses gaming with simulation. You won't find tight narrative mission arcs guiding you to a conclusion, even though there are ongoing missions and environments that line up with the evolving lore put out daily by Frontier. Elite is meant to be lived. So take your time and enjoy elite as a virtual home.
Good speed.
Like all games, Elite has its grind. If you only want to pvp in the best ships then be prepared for an intense time-commitment. If your goals are more flexible, you can avoid some grind and have fun. Here is the general advice I give to new pilots in my neck of the woods.
Previous to the Horizon: Beyond update, Elite had significant time, credit, and reputation gating. This was partly because it is a virtual world meant to be played indefinitely. It was also the fault of poor design in game mechanics and related balance problems. If you were hardcore, you could get through the gating with grind. If you were new you were hopelessly behind others without grind. And if you were a casual player, you had no hope whatsoever. In 2019, superior mining and exploration mechanics were introduced in Beyond, and these have significantly changed the landscape for new and casual players. So consider following these points of advice.
1. The learning curve is steep. Be patient with yourself. And do all your training missions!
2. Frontier has finally established a relatively protected zone for new pilots to start in Elite Dangerous. This was necessary to address the griefing a.k.a. “seal clubbing” of new players by long-established players. This was not legitimate pvp, but exploitation feeding the morally immature and the pathologies of certain individuals. When you receive a mission promoting you in combat, exploration, or trading rank, you’ll be able to leave the starter bubble but not return. When you do leave never log into the Open server until you are well outside the starter bubble. A few jumps away the density of griefers will decline precipitously.
3. If you want to play alone, stay in the Solo server. If you want to pvp with others, log into the Open server. If you want to play with others on a pve basis, join the private server Mobius. Mobius is the largest private group in Elite and rivals the size of Open.
4. Establish a single base of operations located near necessary resources and stations. Big population systems are obvious choices (e.g., Earth), but the use of third party tools will identify others.
5. Rank up with all the factions you can in system, and in other systems that trade with your system. As you rank up with those factions, your reputation improves. As that improves, you get better missions. With better missions you get more credits, reputation, etc.
6. As soon as you can start core mining. This is the most lucrative credit making opportunity in Elite, and is designed to be a skill-based and rewarding activity. Significantly, core mining can be done in most small ships, and quickly allows you to upgrade those ships to an AspX, Python, or Krait Phantom for maximum efficiency and payoff. MadProphet’s guide is linked in the resource section below.
7. Use the Road to Riches for exploration. This is a route of hundreds of high-value systems to scan that will quickly earn you reputation and credits. A link to the Road is in the resource section below.
8. Focus on working up to the best second tier ships you can. These do virtually everything that the third tier ships do. For example, focus on working up to an AspX (for exploration), a Krait Phantom (for smuggling), a Python (for medium trading and mining), a T-9 (for large trading), and FDL (for combat). This does not mean you’ll never get a third tier ship (i.e., Anaconda, Cutter, or Corvette), but unless you focus on credits from the get-go, it will take a very long time.
9. Engineer your ships and modules. Engineering in Elite is a form of crafting that allows you to make vast improvements in ship functionality.
10. Avoid Open pvp in the early game. Combat is an expensive time and credit sink even for the hard-core. If you do pvp as a casual player, be prepared to see your credit reserves dwindle rapidly. If you do want to pvp most of your time, choose your ships wisely (e.g., FDL) and watch out for developments with PowerPlay.
11. Join a squadron, create one with friends, or apply to create your own player faction. There is strength and wisdom in numbers, and they will help you thrive. A few of the better organizations I’m familiar with include:
- Mobius, a player group of the self-same private server, located in the Azrael system.
- AEDC is found in Wolf 406.
- UAF is located in Konduwa.
- Independent Defense Agency is located in Varam.
12. Grab credit and reputation making opportunities whenever they arise. In the past rare-trading, smuggling, long-distance transport, skimmer missions, combat zones, and passenger missions were some of the examples that fit this bill. As of this writing, the credit meta is deep core mining. Unlike past meta, it appears Frontier plans to allow this source of credits to go un-nerfed.
13. Do not grind until your eyes bleed, but do look for ways to be efficient with your time. For instance, choose multiple missions from different factions to the same system, ferry the most rewarding passengers, trade the highest profit goods, or dispose of assassins sent to kill you before you start a trade run.
14. Frontier left out the informational and social tools needed in Elite. So third parties developed a wealth of tools you cannot do without. Of special note is Elite Dangerous Database, ED MarketConnector, INARA, Coriolis, EDBearing, and WaveScanner. So too search for tutorials on the web and youtube, and for informational discussions on the official forums and reddit. Visit Elite Dangerous Codex for a comprehensive list of all the amazing tools out there.
15. Finally, there is no endgame to win and no single storyline to follow. Elite is a virtual world in space (a cosmos) that fuses gaming with simulation. You won't find tight narrative mission arcs guiding you to a conclusion, even though there are ongoing missions and environments that line up with the evolving lore put out daily by Frontier. Elite is meant to be lived. So take your time and enjoy elite as a virtual home.
Good speed.