PvP Holy Moley Greifioli!!!

Jaylem

Jaylem
Anybody looking at the current CG location Wanted list??

some guy in a Corvette has ganked 32M in Innocent kills!! Really shows how effective the new C&P system is.....


how can I tell? well I can't state his name due to forum rules, but... his ship is called "GANKFORCE 1". kind of states the obvious. :D


I would almost congratulate the CMDR but.... I am no fan of evil acts. if he had handed in 32M in bounties that would be very different.


Although I play in Solo (exclusively for said reason above ^) I don't want others suffering to this sort of bulling...not again (my heart still weeps for the fallen during the Oracle transport massacre :( )


Calling all good hearted, Brave or money hungry PvPers! Anyone want to deal some cold hard justice for the little folk? and get a decent pay-check in the process (sign up to CG before hand, that sort of bounty would almost be immediate top 25-10%) :)


there is also another couple of targets below as well, 24M thereabouts decreasing to the 10's of Millions (still really good pay for a single kill, although i'd rather take on a Medusa Solo than a Dedicated PvP greifer…)


I will be safe in the Gank-free dimension of Elite called Solo (at least until we resolve this problem)….although for this sort of occasion it is almost worth starting a wing....


Best of Luck! I doubt he will just lay down and let you kill him...expect one hell of a show!!

CMDR Jaylem
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
On a totally unrelated note (or not :D)

What is this about grEIfing? Is this some kind of meme or joke?

I think it's called grIEfing?!

What makes it double hilarious for me is that in german "greifen" means "to grab", so I sort of always stumble over the spelling greifing chuckling who's been grabbed by the fuel scoop this time...
 

Powderpanic

Banned
Powderpanic
Only 32mil?

Rookie.

If you want to no consequence grief, you build a throwaway Vulture, stick on your dirty drives and some efficient PA's. ( take them off before you sell it )
Traders die really easy and you can always high wake away from any challenge.

Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
 

[VR]m335

[VR]m335
Recent CG demonstrated how a small number of players can effectively terrorize most of the activity in the entire galaxy. While an opposing force of sufficient numbers is much rarer.

Between the rich/poor divide caused by engineers, and the lack of legitimate PvP activity, there just are not enough legitimate competent players to confront the minority of the community obsessed with terrorism.
 

Arguendo

Volunteer Moderator
Arguendo
Jaylem said:
Calling all good hearted, Brave or money hungry PvPers! Anyone want to deal some cold hard justice for the little folk? and get a decent pay-check in the process (sign up to CG before hand, that sort of bounty would almost be immediate top 25-10%) :)
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You can only collect 2M from another cmdrs bounty. The rest is gone, except that the outlaw will have to pay it off when seeing the rebuy screen. Being able to get them to the rebuy screen is an entirely different matter, and seeing where you prefer to play, I don't blame you for not knowing how hard that is in the current game.
 

Jaylem

Jaylem
CMDR Arguendo said:
You can only collect 2M from another cmdrs bounty. The rest is gone, except that the outlaw will have to pay it off when seeing the rebuy screen. Being able to get them to the rebuy screen is an entirely different matter, and seeing where you prefer to play, I don't blame you for not knowing how hard that is in the current game.
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…..what?? only 2M???!!! then whats the point of having a bounty system if you can't even profit off it...


I was in open for the first time in months preying in the system, searching desperately to find one of these people and bring them to justice!...and instantly skyrocket to high CG rank.... time wasted :(


Seems to me that this is even more griefer biased than I thought, they kill as much as they like, and if anyone stops them they get robbed.... that's like Grief^2 mathematically :D during and after life griefing….


a good way to stop it is per innocent kill the payout penalty doubles with no cap, if I have a 2Mcr rebuy and kill 20 CMDRs (innocent) then 2^20 Million will need to be paid upon destruction... which is certified Bankruptcy!!! ;)


then all griefers would soon go bankrupt and be forced to sell their ships and will go away almost permanently...how joyous would that be :D
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Jaylem said:
…..what?? only 2M???!!! then whats the point of having a bounty system if you can't even profit off it...


I was in open for the first time in months preying in the system, searching desperately to find one of these people and bring them to justice!...and instantly skyrocket to high CG rank.... time wasted :(


Seems to me that this is even more griefer biased than I thought, they kill as much as they like, and if anyone stops them they get robbed.... that's like Grief^2 mathematically :D during and after life griefing….


a good way to stop it is per innocent kill the payout penalty doubles with no cap, if I have a 2Mcr rebuy and kill 20 CMDRs (innocent) then 2^20 Million will need to be paid upon destruction... which is certified Bankruptcy!!! ;)


then all griefers would soon go bankrupt and be forced to sell their ships and will go away almost permanently...how joyous would that be :D
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Suspect it was to stop exploits.

Used to be very easy to rack up a massive bounty. Like hundreds of millions. Just get a big fine for smuggling, let it expire and turn into a bounty. Do that a few times.

Switch to sidewinder, let your friend kill you.

Pure profit except for the loss of the sidewinder.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Agony_Aunt said:
Suspect it was to stop exploits.

Used to be very easy to rack up a massive bounty. Like hundreds of millions. Just get a big fine for smuggling, let it expire and turn into a bounty. Do that a few times.

Switch to sidewinder, let your friend kill you.

Pure profit except for the loss of the sidewinder.
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Exactly this. Under the old system, I could quite happily accrue 100m in bounties on my head in a single day, maybe even a single hour (essentially; accrue tonnes of fines, then attack someone and it becomes a bounty). Suicidewind to a friend, friend just gained 100m and I just write off the sidey.

Except that's capped at 2m, to prevent that sort of thing.

Out of interest, am I mistaken that a good deal of that 32m bounty is part of the ship rebuy? In which case, is the actual total of bounty attributes to penalties for killing commanders much smaller, if the killer is in a Conda/Vette or similar?
 
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Jaylem

Jaylem
Jmanis said:
Exactly this. Under the old system, I could quite happily accrue 100m in bounties on my head in a single day, maybe even a single hour (essentially; accrue tonnes of fines, then attack someone and it becomes a bounty). Suicidewind to a friend, friend just gained 100m and I just write off the sidey.

Except that's capped at 2m, to prevent that sort of thing.

Out of interest, am I mistaken that a good deal of that 32m bounty is part of the ship rebuy? In which case, is the actual total of bounty attributes to penalties for killing commanders much smaller, if the killer is in a Conda/Vette or similar?
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yes I actually remember Fdev mentioning this! good point! :)

However it appears that this still hasn't deterred them in the SLIGHTEST. it appears that people just don't care about the notoriety system ( apart from the innocent who it appears to effect the most....) I know when I do when I accidently collect a sidewinder in my Brick of a cutter....
 

Arguendo

Volunteer Moderator
Arguendo
Jmanis said:
Out of interest, am I mistaken that a good deal of that 32m bounty is part of the ship rebuy? In which case, is the actual total of bounty attributes to penalties for killing commanders much smaller, if the killer is in a Conda/Vette or similar?
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The bounty is in addition to the rebuy. The bounty itself is based on the difference between the killer and victim's rebuy. So the bigger the discrepancy, the bigger the bounty (ie kill a Sidewinder with a Cutter, get a huge bounty. Kill a Cutter with a Sidewinder, get pretty much just the regular 6k or what it is).
Both the rebuy and the bounty has to be paid if the outlaw wants his ship back after dying.
 

CMDR DAVID187

C
Jaylem said:
Anybody looking at the current CG location Wanted list??

some guy in a Corvette has ganked 32M in Innocent kills!! Really shows how effective the new C&P system is.....


how can I tell? well I can't state his name due to forum rules, but... his ship is called "GANKFORCE 1". kind of states the obvious. :D


I would almost congratulate the CMDR but.... I am no fan of evil acts. if he had handed in 32M in bounties that would be very different.


Although I play in Solo (exclusively for said reason above ^) I don't want others suffering to this sort of bulling...not again (my heart still weeps for the fallen during the Oracle transport massacre :( )


Calling all good hearted, Brave or money hungry PvPers! Anyone want to deal some cold hard justice for the little folk? and get a decent pay-check in the process (sign up to CG before hand, that sort of bounty would almost be immediate top 25-10%) :)


there is also another couple of targets below as well, 24M thereabouts decreasing to the 10's of Millions (still really good pay for a single kill, although i'd rather take on a Medusa Solo than a Dedicated PvP greifer…)


I will be safe in the Gank-free dimension of Elite called Solo (at least until we resolve this problem)….although for this sort of occasion it is almost worth starting a wing....


Best of Luck! I doubt he will just lay down and let you kill him...expect one hell of a show!!

CMDR Jaylem
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some call solo safe mode .
 

Night Wing Zero

Night Wing Zero
Bigmaec said:
And some call all PvPers mad sociopathic griefers. The point?
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The "Point" is... that some actual PvPers think that Open Mode belongs to them only and want to force others to play the way they see it fit which IMHO it discourages to play on open and therefore the community gets more divided due to this so called understatement of "Git Gud".

For me i'm not even surprised to see more and more players (myself included) to play on PG and Solo rather than Open because of the current issue that Fdev hasn't even bothered to solve it.
 

Arguendo

Volunteer Moderator
Arguendo
Night Wing Zero said:
The "Point" is... that some actual PvPers think that Open Mode belongs to them only and want to force others to play the way they see it fit which IMHO it discourages to play on open and therefore the community gets more divided due to this so called understatement of "Git Gud".

For me i'm not even surprised to see more and more players (myself included) to play on PG and Solo rather than Open because of the current issue that Fdev hasn't even bothered to solve it.
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Whatever you are explaining, I am pretty sure it doesn't answer BigMaec's question of what the point was in Ronan187's post.
 
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