Honking to colonia?

Trollymctrollerson

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Simple question for you well traveled adventurers:
I have a ship with 60ly range. My plan is to fly randomly a few thousand light years from the bubble to secure a mostly uncharted vector towards colonia, and just then turn towards colonia. If I just fly and honk, no FSS, no mapping, approximately how much credits will the trip generate?
 

sinisalo

sinisalo
I can't say with anything approaching certainty, but I have the figures from my one and only Colonia expedition, in April of 2020. I mapped extensively, but selectively, and I would have no ability to extrapolate the honk money from the rest. But here are the numbers from my trip. These are first discoveries only

Systems: 558
HMCs: 1276
Rocky: 957
Icy: 1032
Earth-like: 9
Water World: 76
Ammonia World: 11

If I add in the stars, gas giants and others it's a lot more. My commander name is now firmly stitched in to the galaxy
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Distance Flown: 53,296
Jumps: 887
Systems: 854
Scans: 6,699
Exploration Data: 536 million
 

oblivionmanman 2476

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one use youre fss.undiscovered systems take five minutes to do a scan.you never know also you could easy be the first to find and youre name will blaze the star.second its a long journey plenty of music to listen to.three good luck cmdr.also there are plenty of fc and stations on the way if you look for them 07
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Trollymctrollerson said:
I have a ship with 60ly range. My plan is to fly randomly a few thousand light years from the bubble to secure a mostly uncharted vector towards colonia, and just then turn towards colonia. If I just fly and honk, no FSS, no mapping, approximately how much credits will the trip generate?
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If you're not using the FSS, there's no real point in picking an uncharted vector, as the only things you'll actually get first discovery on are the primary stars and maybe the occasional close-in planet, and the bonus won't be significant. (Conversely, once you get to the second half of the trip, even the straight-line route has plenty of uncharted systems if you're not neutron-boosting, just because of how many systems there are out there).

60 LY range, 22,000 LY ... that would be about 375 jumps assuming you don't neutron boost. Average honk-only value of a system is I think about 50,000 credits, plus some proximity scans of inner HMCs, so you'd probably get around 20 million credits.
 

Maolagin

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Ian Doncaster said:
60 LY range, 22,000 LY ... that would be about 375 jumps assuming you don't neutron boost. Average honk-only value of a system is I think about 50,000 credits, plus some proximity scans of inner HMCs, so you'd probably get around 20 million credits.
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That's the thing that makes this a tricky question - the average depends entirely on routing choices made.

The basic rule is that a simple honk gives you (IIRC) 20% of the full FSS (not mapping) value of the system, so the income from doing this is going to be dominated by how many systems with high-value bodies you pass through. With no filtering, on a straight line from the Bubble to Colonia you'll mostly pass through worthless M dwarf systems, maybe 1-2k honk value each. If you filter to just OBAFGK you'll have about the same number of jumps but many more systems with valuable terraformable bodies. I'm not sure if the average really goes as high as 50k per system honk, but that's the right general ballpark. And if you first fly down to -1000 ly and turn on neutron routing you'll have less than half as many jumps but they'll be much more valuable on average due to the 20k credits per neutron star honked.

Overall though, honking on long-distance travel is tidy little bonus money, not any kind of way to get rich. For earning credits, you really need to be FSS scanning and selectively mapping.
 

hems303

hems303
Trollymctrollerson said:
Simple question for you well traveled adventurers:
I have a ship with 60ly range. My plan is to fly randomly a few thousand light years from the bubble to secure a mostly uncharted vector towards colonia, and just then turn towards colonia. If I just fly and honk, no FSS, no mapping, approximately how much credits will the trip generate?
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Just this very week arrived in Colonia from the bubble... using the Neutron Highway (Spansh) I honked each system (Nothing else) all the way there 123 jumps and once in Colonia saved three pages of 'Honk' for 2.75 million, 2.1 million and 1.75 million (and some of the systems I honked had previously been honked by me on a previous transit...so presumably did'nt count). I think all of these Neutron Star systems were already 'discovered' by other commanders due to the neutron highway popularity. I made just over 6.5 million credits which I was quite happy with seeing how Neutron Star travel so speeds up the journey time. Hope this helps. o7
 
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Trollymctrollerson

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Thanks for the replies guys. I'm pretty disillusioned with exploration at the moment because, well barkmounds. I've traveled far and wide looking for interesting things, not following guides. All I have found outside the Pleiades is barkmounds. Somehow those worthless waffle cones beat humanity to colonize the galaxy. Anyhow, colonia seems like it might be worth visiting so it's all about cold calculations crossing the void at this point. I'm done looking for things.
 

sinisalo

sinisalo
Everyone should at least once I reckon. If for no other reason than to unlock the Colonia engineers and get more pinned blueprints! That's why I did it. Well, that, and the fact that ever since I started playing, Colonia took on a sort of mysterious vibe, like a legend or a mythical significance that I felt would be a shame if I didn't experience it myself. I'm really glad I did it (I flew a DBX then whistled for a Krait once I was close to use as my engineering bed). But I've not gone back, and maybe never will.

Good hunting commander.
 

Maolagin

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Trollymctrollerson said:
because, well barkmounds
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In that case you'll be delighted to know that bark mounds are far less common than you might think. They're the dominant surface life near nebulas in a few galactic codex regions on this side of the core, but once you go coreward of Colonia, or far away from nebulae, you might never see another one.
 

Scary Asp Explorer

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technical question... player grabs some unexplored and explored systems,he turns in data and then purges account to start over. will his explored planets become unexplored since his name will be gone?
 

varonica

varonica
Scary Asp Explorer said:
technical question... player grabs some unexplored and explored systems,he turns in data and then purges account to start over. will his explored planets become unexplored since his name will be gone?
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Once a CMDR name has been used it's unable to be obtained by anyone else even if they delete their save and start again, once bodies have been tagged with a name that stays forever, so letting a new CMDR use the same name as an old CMDR would lead to confusion over who discovered what. At least that's theory, understandablly I'm not willing to test it out by deleting my current CDMR.
 

antoca

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sinisalo said:
I can't say with anything approaching certainty, but I have the figures from my one and only Colonia expedition, in April of 2020. I mapped extensively, but selectively, and I would have no ability to extrapolate the honk money from the rest. But here are the numbers from my trip. These are first discoveries only

Systems: 558
HMCs: 1276
Rocky: 957
Icy: 1032
Earth-like: 9
Water World: 76
Ammonia World: 11
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Too many earth-likes and waters for 558 systems. You probably filtered many star types out.
 

CMDR SleepyDelegate

CMDR SleepyDelegate
sinisalo said:
I did some star filtering yes. Exactly how many earth likes would have been correct?
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You were probably just lucky. Normaly around 4-5 ELW and around 35 WW in 560 systems. You were probably visiting a lot of D mass systems on your way, probably a lot of F type stars...

I am at the moment hunting ELWs and my average is 52 jumps for one ELW. In some boxels I can achieve around 27 jumps for one ELW. Im also finding one WW in 6.5 jumps. But really heavy filtering... :)
 

sinisalo

sinisalo
Lucky perhaps, or just normal, if above average.

I went back and looked at the AAR I did of my expedition, and for most of the trip I filtered out L, Y and T. And now and then I'd shut down M if I got too many in a row. That was the extent of my filtering.

If 6 is the average, then 3 or 9 can be a thing too. I remarked in that thread that K stars were my most common according to EDSM. But of course in a trip so long you're going to get lots of all of them.
 

sinisalo

sinisalo
I read more of my AAR and evidently I found 5 first-discovery ELWs, and 37 water worlds just on the trip to Colonia in 458 systems. Luck follows me I guess?
 

CMDR SleepyDelegate

CMDR SleepyDelegate
sinisalo said:
I read more of my AAR and evidently I found 5 first-discovery ELWs, and 37 water worlds just on the trip to Colonia in 458 systems. Luck follows me I guess?
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That is actually within expected margin of error for random occurrence of these planets... Around 90-120 jumps for 1 ELW and around 13-17 for one WW if you are not filtering too much.

You seem to be somewhat agitated by the fact, that someone thought your numbers are unusually high... :)
 

CMDR SleepyDelegate

CMDR SleepyDelegate
sinisalo said:
Which is it? Both probably....
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Sorry, I didnt realize you were looking for a argument.

I was merely presenting some averages to you. Your first trip averaged at roughly 50 jumps per one ELW and around 7 per one WW, in plain words, it was almost twice as good as random occurence.

Your second trip averaged around 91 jumps per one ELW and 12 jumps per one WW. So obviously your second trip is matching average numbers for random occurence.

Your first trip is matching averages for occurence improved by quite heavy filtering, or being a bit lucky...

There is no controversy in my statement.

If you are trying to start an argument, let me know, I am not interested.

Safe travels, commander!
 
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