Hori Hotas: Any owner? is it good?

[Vanquish383]

Did anyone try that Hotas with ED? is it working?

I've already changed two Thrustmaster Hotas 4 due to its calibration issues. I've already tried to fix by disassembling and clean the motion sensor, but the issue seems to be related to the sensor itself.

The only other option seems to be this "Hori Hotas". Anyone did tried it? is it good?

 

[[PS4] Filthymick420]

I was under the impression that the thrustmaster hotas was the only one compatible with PlayStation because of contracts or something. I've also been told you can use most other flight sticks if you have a dongle which I don't know how to get....

 

[Vanquish383]

The Thrustmaster is total junk. It works very nice for the first weeks and then its stick motion sensors go "crazy" and there is no way to recalibrate it. Any user that posses it has the same issue, I don't know how even it is possible that they had not fixed this issue with a new version.

Are you referring to the "Cronusmax"? Is there any guide anywhere specific for Elite Dangerous?

 

[[PS4] Filthymick420]

Not that im aware of. So far as i know the only other hotas on ps4 is the one you can get with ace combat 7 but is not compatible with ED

 

[GraphiteGB]

The Hori Flight stick is Not a true USB Flight stick..
The Hori hotas is a DS4 emulation controller Shaped as a flight stick hotas...
Its not a USB stand alone hotas...
Just like there steering wheels, they take the DS4 emulation circuits and then wire the feeds to components that represent the new controller shape...
You can use it on any title you like as is is just a PS4 controller. but the button locations will make some games very bad..
This is the same as there keyboard and mouse DS4 emulation controllers... PS4 controller just rewired to run of a Keyboard and mouse shape..

The issues With it being a DS4 controller in a hotas shell is that Every button is just the same button as a DS4...
The other issue is that the Analogue stick is emulating the DS4 left stick so has the same exact limits, the Deadzone size is Prefixed in the hori hardware not Software of ED. The hotas has is own aceeleration setting for sensitivity on the hardware .
The Throttle Emulates the Button combos which are set buy a switch and there are only 3 combos allowed...
Only 1 of those combos is actual analogue in use and that emulation of the right stick up and down... all other settings are digital not analogue when you enable right stick for throttle the right stick on the flight stick is then disabled...

With out reconfig the controlls in the menus of elite dangerous Nothing will work correctly as the Control's are Built for Ace combat 7 ...
In ace combat 7, X is primary fire so is mapped to the trigger...
Secondary fire is a different button in ace combat so you have to remap that as well
Every basic button is wrong for ED so you have to Remap virtualy every thing...

Hori built the fight stick for Namcos game ace combat 7 This results in it being very bad for ED... There is no Twist controll for another example rudder is on throttle...
As the controller is DS4 emulation, game developers only have to add a remap controlls function to support it... no messing with USB device driver addons in the SDK are needed..

 

[Vanquish383]

thank you for the detailed explanation!

 

[Snowymonk]

The Thrustmaster is total junk. It works very nice for the first weeks and then its stick motion sensors go "crazy" and there is no way to recalibrate it. Any user that posses it has the same issue, I don't know how even it is possible that they had not fixed this issue with a new version.

Are you referring to the "Cronusmax"? Is there any guide anywhere specific for Elite Dangerous?

I’ve had a Thrustmaster Hotas 4 for about 2 1/2 years now.
I would definitely say it was worth it. Only now is the yaw starting to go, and even then only towards the end of a night when my arms are tired and I am resting on the controls.
I have heard that they are hit & miss though in terms of build quality. Just as many people getting duds as good ones.

I haven’t heard of any other HOTAS that work with the PS4.

 

[[PS4] Filthymick420]

Ive had 3 that have ALL had the same problem. After a few weeks they start drifting to the left like a car with bad alignment. Ive become amazing with the controller though and a few key binds for some things make my throttle control equal to the hotas based on my own experiences. Imo the thrustmaster hotas for ps4 is very cheaply made

 

[GraphiteGB]

thank you for the detailed explanation!

No problem.
Hori did build it correctly using industrial quality metal variable resisters like you find in dimmier light switches, they do not use plastic POT''s, but its just the DS4 Dead zone is Massive when they use emulation and extended the height, so its no good for non arcade flight games...

 

[[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_]

The Thrustmaster is total junk. It works very nice for the first weeks and then its stick motion sensors go "crazy" and there is no way to recalibrate it. Any user that posses it has the same issue, I don't know how even it is possible that they had not fixed this issue with a new version.

Are you referring to the "Cronusmax"? Is there any guide anywhere specific for Elite Dangerous?

Mine isn't total junk. Bought it when Elite launched and have used it nearly every day since. Not bad for the £65 I paid for it.

 

[GraphiteGB]

Mine isn't total junk. Bought it when Elite launched and have used it nearly every day since. Not bad for the £65 I paid for it.

Its only been going up in price since Ace combat 7 released £74.99 just for the namco branding... price was way lower for a long time...

 

[[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_]

IIRC I had a problem finding somewhere that had it in stock, and ended up doing click and collect from a high street retailer. Was fun when they asked what I'd come to pick up, and I pretended it was for my nephew

 

[Pug]

I'm not sure about the specific Thrust master for the PS4 as i'm a PC player, probably the same T-Thrust Hotas X one but Blue trim instead of red.

I have used the red/orange one for nigh on 5 years now and it has never let me down not sure if they are built differently or it may just be that the console hasn't got the separate software to deal with the calibration issue it.
Another solution that may work, as a friend had this problem with a different Hotas. I set his dead zone quite high (just below 30%) but again that was on PC.

If the console version has the same option/control GUI then this may help some people, I hope.

I found it to be quite a reliable stick otherwise. unusually, well for me anyway. Was in Elite Dangerous it was the throttle 0% 'notch' feel.
regards
Pug

 

[Legion_420_666]

Consoletuner.com
Has a box you buy that can make the ps4 think any other hotas you want to use is a ds4
Im trying to convince the developer to use a T4 protocol
But since im of a very few on his forums asking
He has it on the backburner
If you log in and join my thread maybe we can convince him