General / Off-Topic Horror in Stockholm !

I've heard it said that these vehicle attacks actually represent a reduction of capability of the terrorist groups since they have less access to funding and training now as a result of their power bases in the middle east become under threat. The theory goes that you can get someone to do a vehicle attack with little preparation once they're radicalized on-line. Not sure if this is the full story but it's an interesting idea.
 
Oh, I meant the attack.

I know but it was a reflex to evacuate my consternation of this new terrible event

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The theory goes that you can get someone to do a vehicle attack with little preparation once they're radicalized on-line. Not sure if this is the full story but it's an interesting idea.

Yes, that's right. And the war will continue for decades
 
Yes, that's right. And the war will continue for decades

Part of the problem is we react so strongly to them. Of course for some terror attacks (such as the Paris one last year) that's inevitable because they are shocking. However, I personally believe that these vehicle ones should be reported as simple crimes. Lots of crimes (and accidents for that matter) happen all the time on this level and we don't give them this kind of coverage. Coverage is like oxygen to these kind of attacks and we need to downplay them a little more. Of course they're still tragedies for those who are affected but we're not helping by publicizing them on the level we do.
 
I've heard it said that these vehicle attacks actually represent a reduction of capability of the terrorist groups since they have less access to funding and training now as a result of their power bases in the middle east become under threat. The theory goes that you can get someone to do a vehicle attack with little preparation once they're radicalized on-line. Not sure if this is the full story but it's an interesting idea.

I thought it was mostly due to the difficulty in obtaining guns, unnoticed, in Europe.

The terror manual that ISIS puts out suggests radicals in Europe use trucks and knives while for the US, they say just buy a gun anywhere.
 
If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.
 
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Has anyone mentioned the terrorist attack in Syria last night?

No attack last night, just an attack on a terrorist base

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Part of the problem is we react so strongly to them. Of course for some terror attacks (such as the Paris one last year) that's inevitable because they are shocking. However, I personally believe that these vehicle ones should be reported as simple crimes. Lots of crimes (and accidents for that matter) happen all the time on this level and we don't give them this kind of coverage. Coverage is like oxygen to these kind of attacks and we need to downplay them a little more. Of course they're still tragedies for those who are affected but we're not helping by publicizing them on the level we do.

It is not really to the attack that people react but rather at the underlying ideology. And it's good news that the people react
 
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If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.

There's truth to this but it's very complicated.. Force alone has rarely succeeded in ending terrorist threats. When one thinks about recent terrorist problems which have resulted in a successful ending of hostilities there's almost always been some kind of compromise involved. One thinks about the Good Friday agreement for example or the FARC rebels.. Of course it's really hard to see right now what kind of compromise would be possible with these Islamist death cultists.. However, it is certainly possible to see how previous interventions may have made things worse. The failure after the previous war in Iraq to come up with a non-sectarian government who are fair to both Sunni and Shia alike for example has caused a hot bed of problems. Also then of course there's the resentment since the 40s which is felt all over the middle east over the situation in Israel doesn't help either.. The reasons for this current terrorism problem are deep rooted.
 
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Part of the problem is we react so strongly to them. Of course for some terror attacks (such as the Paris one last year) that's inevitable because they are shocking. However, I personally believe that these vehicle ones should be reported as simple crimes. Lots of crimes (and accidents for that matter) happen all the time on this level and we don't give them this kind of coverage. Coverage is like oxygen to these kind of attacks and we need to downplay them a little more. Of course they're still tragedies for those who are affected but we're not helping by publicizing them on the level we do.

I agree really. The objective of terror, is to cause terror after all. I don't think the domestic weapons campaign will work. Civil outreach programs causing shared faith groups to call foul and the cities tend to go on, more or less as usual and more or less as quickly as after any other incident, accident or crime. Solutions aren't quite so simple probably, and I'm not sure the reverse psychology to use .. but 'man with small tadger, loses control of a vehicle because mentally unstable' would at least start to undermine? The more people can take a first aid course and be a useful bystander if this sort of thing happens, the more the robust the civil defence imo.

Sympathies to Stockholm.
 
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It was a state air base, regardless of what you, I or anyone else thinks of that state.
It was Trump's forces who were the terrorists there.

No importance. Assad is a terrorist and his military bases are terrorists bases, which use the chemical weapons to assassinate the innocent civilians
 
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It was a state air base, regardless of what you, I or anyone else thinks of that state.
It was Trump's forces who were the terrorists there.

Empty base...in the middle of the night. That is not terrorism, that is military strike.

Now, doing it without authorization from Congress, which he could have had easily by not being Obama, is an illegal move.

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No importance. Assad is a terrorist and his military bases are terrorists bases, which use the chemical weapons to assassinate the innocent civilians

Terrorist? I'm not sure. War criminal, most likely.
 
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No importance. Assad is a terrorist and his military bases are terrorists bases, which use the chemical weapons to assassinate the innocent civilians

As Trump is a Terrorist, as most western world leaders are too... Does that make all our bases valid targets too?
 
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