HOTAS or Flightstick Mental Adjustment?

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Ultimately you will discover that setting it up for you by using trial and error is the best way to discover your comfort zone for a HOTAS. Then practice, practice, practice.

Even as someone who "grew up" with a joystick, this is important. I remapped 2/3rds of my HOTAS set up, even though it was the x52 which Elite was sort of "designed for".

I don't care what anyone says, yaw does NOT belong on the twist :mad:

A lot of the controls are from atmospheric flight and those don't translate completely to space.
 
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I haven't used a joystick since transitioning from Amiga to PC (80468 era!), so I expected to be rusty coming into a HOTAS setup: decades without a joystick and a much more complex HOTAS (went CH Fighterstick + CH Throttle Pro, no pedals) to boot!

Turns out, a decade of (ab)using the Suzo Arcade (best joystick of the era!) payed off in the end after all :)! Using joystick to roll and pitch just comes naturally and I can't think of an input device which does it better than a good joystick and main flying accuracy is pretty good.

The multitude of hats and buttons though, that's a bit more difficult to get a grip on. Schemes that other players use are a good way to start. It helps if you're able to decide what you want to do with your left hand and your right hand.

Currently, my flight stick contains all the primary "combat" functions: triggers, target selection, energy management, fire groups, defensive measures, plus headlook. Throttle hand is for managing motion / thrust (forward and vertical thrust, reverse button and boost), Flight assist, Supercruise. Exception is yaw, which is logically not a function of thrust, but I don't have pedals or twist-action. I use yaw more often in flight than lateral thrust, so it replaces lateral where it otherwise should have been. Other miscellanious functions also go on this controller: Landing gear, Cargo scoop, sensor range, UI controls.

I have overrides when landing gear is down where I replace yaw with lateral thrust, with yaw remapped on another hat-button.

I also have an extra button on the stick that acts like a "shift" button to overload some buttons with related functions (FSD vs FSD to SC only; Target vs subsystem Target; etc.)

But this setup is something that I've worked at for a few weeks; muscle memory is not consistent yet. Sometimes, I have to really think what how I want to do something (Chaff! Oh no, that was a Shield cell!). And regularly, I get insight that some things just don't really work as well as I thought they would, or I want to try a different thing (4 way target hat: is left - right target next / prev, plus shift for subsystem, or left is subsystem, right is ship, with shift going previous instead of next). Sometimes, I notice that I often accidentally bump the target selector while using secondary trigger. I'm not quite sure what to do with that yet: secondary trigger is a bit awkward due to the shape of the Fighterstick in relation to the size of my hand.

Anyway, I expect my button configurations to change in the coming weeks as I go on experimenting with a few things. Just keep in mind that in the end, it's the muscle memory that needs to be built up; you need to transition yourself from thinking "I need to press the left button" to thinking "Chaff and Boost!". This takes time to build, but remember that using your controller is also something you've built up over the years. No button configuration is necessarily "natural", just something your hands need to get used to.
 
Just ordered a Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X today, should be waiting for me when I get home from work tomorrow.
Planning on using Crab's custom setup (here) which I am also using for my keyboard layout. Never tried default.

I have no problems playing with mouse + keyboard though, been a FPS player for roughly 20 years.

I just want to try it and make it more "fun".
I may crash and burn badly, but I want to try it.

The Thrustmaster isn't that expensive, so if it turns out I am horrible at it, it's no big deal.
Always resell value also.

I like it's split, so the throttle can be on the left side of my keyboard and the joystick on the right side.
So I can still use my keyboard as usual, like when I'm browsing forum and what have you.

I'm excited.
 
Well I can now confirm that the Black Widow I mentioned earlier is HOTAS and not just joystick because it arrived this morning (wasnt expecting it till next week). Anyway spent a couple of hours with it this morning firstly training missions and then back in open and have had no disasters touch wood. I think because it is a "value" one there are a few less buttons than on the picture of the one above - anyway I have had a play and think have got it nearly where I want it - might make a few more tweaks if I find myself repeating the same mistake.

Anyway back to the galaxy to find out if practice makes perfect.
 
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