how a PROPER gas giants looks like - Frontier, we're keeping fingers crossed for a 4.0 release ;)

rdslw

R
As the subject goes, check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfM7VlonD5c


Explanation: Here comes Jupiter! NASA's robotic spacecraft Juno is continuing on its 53-day, highly-elongated orbits around our Solar System's largest planet. The featured video is from perijove 11, the eleventh time Juno has passed near Jupiter since it arrived in mid-2016. This time-lapse, color-enhanced movie covers about four hours and morphs between 36 JunoCam images. The video begins with Jupiter rising as Juno approaches from the north. As Juno reaches its closest view -- from about 3,500 kilometers over Jupiter's cloud tops -- the spacecraft captures the great planet in tremendous detail. Juno passes light zones and dark belt of clouds that circle the planet, as well as numerous swirling circular storms, many of which are larger than hurricanes on Earth. After the perijove, Jupiter recedes into the distance, now displaying the unusual clouds that appear over Jupiter's south. To get desired science data, Juno swoops so close to Jupiter that its instruments may soon fail due to exposure to high levels of radiation. Because of this, in part, the Juno mission is currently schedule to conclude in mid-2018, at perijove 14, when the spacecraft will be directed to dive into Jupiter's atmosphere and melt.

Source: https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap180226.html
 

rennarda

R
Yep - I've been bemoaning the look of Gas Giants for a couple of years. They definitely need a major bit of TLC. Some of the ones we see at the moment are downright silly looking. And while we're at it, why do stars look better from a distance then they do up-close?!

Also, something that struck me when played this week when I visited a double water world system - water worlds have no clouds! In reality they should be almost complete blanketed in cloud systems! The definitely look very weird as it is at the moment, completely devoid of any cloud at all
 

Aashenfox

Aashenfox
While there is room for improvement compared to reality, when do we say we are asking a bit too much? These things have to be procedurally generated, from a LOT of parameters, to add more would be nice, but is it feasible?

FWIW, gas giants are the only planets I sometimes sit and stare at, I like the colour variations in them. Of all the planetary things to make better, making gas giants prettier is at the bottom of my list, I'm afraid.
 

Shiro Akai

Shiro Akai
Planets... Yesterday I launched Stellaris. Can someone point FDEVs toward that game to show how stars should looks like?
 

c00ky1970

c00ky1970
If there was some gameplay involved with gas giants, then all hands to the art department to ratchet the visuals up to 11!

Maybe, gas Giant scooping will be a paid for DLC add-on this year? I dunno....
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
c00ky1970 said:
If there was some gameplay involved with gas giants, then all hands to the art department to ratchet the visuals up to 11!

Maybe, gas Giant scooping will be a paid for DLC add-on this year? I dunno....
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Yeah, if gas giants get overhaul, it is most likely of gas mining. They won't just add them for eye candy. Too much work.
 

Drelthar

Drelthar
Aashenfox said:
FWIW, gas giants are the only planets I sometimes sit and stare at, I like the colour variations in them. Of all the planetary things to make better, making gas giants prettier is at the bottom of my list, I'm afraid.
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Huh, weird, I always feel they just look like muddy brown blobs... Not enough contrast for me.
 

Mengy

Mengy
Yeah the Juno footage has been great and very enlightening.

I wish we at least had more variety with gas giants in the game. A lot of them look way too similar to each other.
 

biot

biot
Aashenfox said:
While there is room for improvement compared to reality, when do we say we are asking a bit too much? These things have to be procedurally generated, from a LOT of parameters, to add more would be nice, but is it feasible?

FWIW, gas giants are the only planets I sometimes sit and stare at, I like the colour variations in them. Of all the planetary things to make better, making gas giants prettier is at the bottom of my list, I'm afraid.
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Agreed. Given that at this point we only have close up views of two real gas giants, I think that is a pretty small sample set from which to make assumptions about how all gas giants should look like. Or in other words, FD's informed guess is as good as anybody else's.
 

Aashenfox

Aashenfox
Novo Mundus said:
Huh, weird, I always feel they just look like muddy brown blobs... Not enough contrast for me.
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They could definitely be better and there could be more that aren't just reddy beige.

However, I've seen variations of clouds in purple, pink, white, cream, yellow, green, beige, red, with dark and light variations of all. I am particularly partial to the rare purple and green ones, as well as green and white ones (almost look like forest worlds sometimes, when they are dark green with white whispy clouds). Yes, most are muddy beigey red like jupiter, but I still reckon that's low priority compared to other stuff (like making worlds we can land on more interesting).
 
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Sapyx

Sapyx
If/when gas giants become "landable" - or rather, fly-into-able, then they'll probably get an overhaul. But until and unless that happens, GG appearances will probably remain the same.

Any tweaking tot he procedural-generated-appearance algorithms will probably get rid of the Glowing Green Giants - and I for one would prefer that didn't happen, unless they were replaced with something even cooler.
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
FDev is dedicated to continuously updating the graphics.

"Beyond" is not the update with the last visual planetary enhancement we will see.
And when/if we are allowed to get closer to gas giants and perhaps enter their upper atmospheres FDev will no doubt get to work on those again too.
 
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IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
Are we sure that's an actual, 1:1 direct visual representation, with no post effects, or artificial colors or flavors added?
And what's up with black semi-circle? Around here we get black squares. Did they do that wrong too? Should they actually be black circles instead?
 

Kaocraft

Kaocraft
Aashenfox said:
While there is room for improvement compared to reality, when do we say we are asking a bit too much? These things have to be procedurally generated, from a LOT of parameters, to add more would be nice, but is it feasible?

FWIW, gas giants are the only planets I sometimes sit and stare at, I like the colour variations in them. Of all the planetary things to make better, making gas giants prettier is at the bottom of my list, I'm afraid.
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Of course it's feasible and it should be high priority. The realistic galaxy and top-tier procgen is the only thing differentiating Elite from other space games. It should be continually improved and advertised as a major selling point. It's frankly ridiculous that when people hear the phrase "procedurally generated space-game" that most of them think of No Man's Sky.
 

Aashenfox

Aashenfox
Well, don't worry too much guys, pretty soon, Elon will drive his Tesla to Rupert and take a selfie in front of every planet on the way, then we'll know what the real colour. Silly NASA and their colour enhancements, like space isn't exciting ENOUGH??!? You have to make it more colorful?! For SHAME!!
 

NeilF

NeilF
rdslw said:
As the subject goes, check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfM7VlonD5c


Explanation: Here comes Jupiter! NASA's robotic spacecraft Juno is continuing on its 53-day, highly-elongated orbits around our Solar System's largest planet. The featured video is from perijove 11, the eleventh time Juno has passed near Jupiter since it arrived in mid-2016. This time-lapse, color-enhanced movie covers about four hours and morphs between 36 JunoCam images. The video begins with Jupiter rising as Juno approaches from the north. As Juno reaches its closest view -- from about 3,500 kilometers over Jupiter's cloud tops -- the spacecraft captures the great planet in tremendous detail. Juno passes light zones and dark belt of clouds that circle the planet, as well as numerous swirling circular storms, many of which are larger than hurricanes on Earth. After the perijove, Jupiter recedes into the distance, now displaying the unusual clouds that appear over Jupiter's south. To get desired science data, Juno swoops so close to Jupiter that its instruments may soon fail due to exposure to high levels of radiation. Because of this, in part, the Juno mission is currently schedule to conclude in mid-2018, at perijove 14, when the spacecraft will be directed to dive into Jupiter's atmosphere and melt.

Source: https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap180226.html
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That's fake! Jupiter is flat!


Joking aside... Maybe improvements to come in 3.3 in Q4?
 
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