How are we traveling faster than light?

Sloathe

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My is hypothesis that your ship is in a sphere that makes you a lot larger but allows you to keep the benefits of being small. For example, if I had this sphere around me to make me travel 10x faster, I could walk 10 meters and in the outside world it would be 1 kilometer. From my perspective and other peoples' perspectives, I would look like a giant, but the physics inside the sphere would act as if I was my normal size. This could work with your space ship so that when the speedometer says you're traveling at 10c, you're not ACTUALLY traveling at 10c from the physics that are happening inside the sphere. Inside the sphere you may be traveling only 100 km/s, but because your ship is larger but you still retain physics as if you were normal size, you travel at ten times the speed of light. Also when you're in supercruise flying close to someone with similar speed and similar direction, you can see they kind of have a sphere surrounding them.

When you go into hyperdrive, it's the same technology but used a bit differently. You must give your destination to the computer because it will create a path for you from point A to point B, so the "sphere" is precreated and is now a tunnel that allows you to travel much faster than supercruise did. If you flew out of the tunnel before point B, you would land wherever in space that part of the tunnel was. Say the length of the tunnel was 1ly. From your perspective it may only be 1ls, so you would be 786x larger than normal size in the tube, and if you traveled 1Mm in the tunnel and then flew out, it would be the same as flying 786Mm if you hadn't been in the tunnel.

I wrote this because I woke up at 6am and I was bored.
 
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Alexei TND

Alexei TND
What about the square cube law though? increasing your size would increase your mass by alot, which in turn would require more energy
The closest real life analogy for ED FTL would probably be an aclubiere drive which warps space time in front and behind you, stretching and compressing space. in essence you don't move through spacetime, but space time moves you
 

Stigbob

Stigbob
It's all possible thanks to an anti-lepton emitter with the polarity reversed, just don't fracture any of the crystals or the plasma conduits will leak purple steam.
 

Morbad

Morbad
I bought a major spelljamming helm from my neighborhood Arcane trash peddler and installed it in a luxury submarine, that's how.
 

Red Fox Four

Red Fox Four
You can't go faster than light because going faster than light means outrunning even the photons which means you are outrunning your own mass which means you leave your mass behind sub-speed of light which means... what is then actually travelling faster than light?

Certainly not your body, or your spaceship.

So your conscience?

Well, I can think about being in the Pegasus galaxy right, so in a way my conscience just insta-travelled to Pegasus galaxy and back in under 3 seconds. That's pretty fast.

As for mass going faster than light. Nope. Certainly not in a straight line.

So time to do the age-old pen and folded paper trick when explaining faster than light travelling I guess.
 

Sloathe

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Alexei TND said:
What about the square cube law though? increasing your size would increase your mass by alot, which in turn would require more energy
The closest real life analogy for ED FTL would probably be an aclubiere drive which warps space time in front and behind you, stretching and compressing space. in essence you don't move through spacetime, but space time moves you
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Increasing your size would increase your mass and require more energy, but since you're in the sphere thing, your physics act the same as if you were normal size. Looking out from the inside, everything would appear much smaller than it actually is. Looking inside from the outside, everything inside the sphere would appear much larger than it actually is. Inside the sphere, traveling 1 km/s could take you MORE than 1 km in one second because your size is bigger but your physics are the same as if you were smaller.
 

Alexei TND

Alexei TND
Sloathe said:
Increasing your size would increase your mass and require more energy, but since you're in the sphere thing, your physics act the same as if you were normal size. Looking out from the inside, everything would appear much smaller than it actually is. Looking inside from the outside, everything inside the sphere would appear much larger than it actually is. Inside the sphere, traveling 1 km/s could take you MORE than 1 km in one second because your size is bigger but your physics are the same as if you were smaller.
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Seems unnecessary
The alcubierre drive acomplishes a similar feat without having to magically increase or decrease your perceived size/mass. This drive is hypothetical but the maths behind it work and fit in our current understanding of how the universe functions..

With the drive you effectively have a bubble of isolated space time (similar to your "sphere thing"), but within your bubble you are not moving at ALL. youre stationary, but the space in front of the bubble shrinks, and the space behind the bubble expands, so space itself moves your isolated buuble at superluminal speeds without breaking relativity by having mass go FTL which is impossible.

Yes i know this is "just a game" and much has to be sacrificed in terms of game play and pseudoscience has to be invented. but we can still use the most accurate theories we have to at least make it resemble plausibility. So why not go with a theory which could be possible and is being entertained by physicists, instead of inventing a new one?
 

Sloathe

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Red Fox Four said:
You can't go faster than light because going faster than light means outrunning even the photons which means you are outrunning your own mass which means you leave your mass behind sub-speed of light which means... what is then actually travelling faster than light?

Certainly not your body, or your spaceship.

So your conscience?

Well, I can think about being in the Pegasus galaxy right, so in a way my conscience just insta-travelled to Pegasus galaxy and back in under 3 seconds. That's pretty fast.

As for mass going faster than light. Nope. Certainly not in a straight line.

So time to do the age-old pen and folded paper trick when explaining faster than light travelling I guess.
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The sphere makes everything in it take up more space while retaining the same mass. It's basically a multiplier. Looking from the outside in, everything in the sphere would be larger than it actually was. Looking from the inside out, everything would be smaller than it actually was.

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Alexei TND said:
Seems unnecessary
The alcubierre drive acomplishes a similar feat without having to magically increase or decrease your perceived size/mass. This drive is hypothetical but the maths behind it work and fit in our current understanding of how the universe functions..

With the drive you effectively have a bubble of isolated space time (similar to your "sphere thing"), but within your bubble you are not moving at ALL. youre stationary, but the space in front of the bubble shrinks, and the space behind the bubble expands, so space itself moves your isolated buuble at superluminal speeds without breaking relativity by having mass go FTL which is impossible.

Yes i know this is "just a game" and much has to be sacrificed in terms of game play and pseudoscience has to be invented. but we can still use the most accurate theories we have to at least make it resemble plausibility. So why not go with a theory which could be possible and is being entertained by physicists, instead of inventing a new one?
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Yes, but-- but... space :c

meanie
 

Comrade Napoleon

Comrade Napoleon
Yes in fact , lets get some hard science in a space GAME :rolleyes:

Its very much needed, in fact I WILL demand that FD gives me an fullfilling explanation of this, so I can experiment in my garage.
This forum is exactly the right place for explanations and thoughts on science.
:rolleyes::eek::rolleyes::eek:

:p
Cheers Cmdr's
 

Snarfbuckle

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Unicorn Poop Powerplants to provide the energy.

We use a catalyser to remove all the sparkles so it's not very apparent.

Nyan Cat Drive for hyperspace.

Normally the initial frameshift jump is supposed to be rainbow coloured but enviromental aspects forced them to put a colourn filter on it so now it's just a streak of gray smoke.
 

Arthur Z.

Arthur Z.
The FSD makes a bubble around your ship and moves this bubble by compressing the space infront of it and expanding it behind. So basically you are stationary inside your own bubble of "space", so you are technically not moving faster than the speed of light.
 

who?

who?
Well, I just stopped and looked in my rear view mirror, and saw an infinite number of "me"s chasing and catching up to me. Won't be doing that again.

On a slightly more serious note - I believe it isn't entirely technobabble. I believe it's based on the Alcubierre drive, a hypothetical propulsion method which is supposedly scientifically valid, BUT does require certain exotic matters, specifically with negative mass. Interestingly, Alcubierre claims he was inspired by the Warp drive in Star Trek, so it's sci-fi emulating science emulating sci-fi.

There are some minor challenges - finding this exotic matter and harnessing it. Steering is supposedly a challenge. Not incinerating the passengers due to Hawking radiation another. Oh, and obliterating the destination when you get there is a real possibility. Maybe there's a reason you drop out of FSD so far away from stations...
 

quickr

quickr
I think all of our "pilots" are actually in a sleeping pod dreaming of flying around in spacecrafts: trading, fighting, bounty hunting when actually they are nothing but slave miners mining ore for thargoids.
 

M00ka

M00ka
Just be thankful we do have FTL travel. It took New Horizons 4 years to go from here to Pluto, imagine getting to Hutton Station at that speed?????
 
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