How big is the bubble?

[Edith_The_Hutt]

How many inhabited systems are there in the ED universe?

I looked at the galaxy map using view by economy type and tried to work it out:

The bubble is sphere of radius about 150 l.y. around Sol. Inside the bubble most star systems have an economy type and are thus populated. Outside the bubble virtually no systems are populated. That's a volume of about 13.8 million cubic light years

The Stellar Density in the region of the milky way is 0.004 stars per cubic light years (source). That gives a number of stars within the bubble of around 55,000. Working out how many of these represent populated systems (given stars can share systems and not every system is populated) is kind of tricky but even if it's 50% then that's about 27,000 populated systems.

Does any one have any better sources for the number of populated systems or how big human civilisation is in the ED universe? I'm curious.

 

[xondk]

19k inhabited systems i believe.

Edit: yup 19k

 

[Edith_The_Hutt]

19k inhabited systems i believe.

Edit: yup 19k

Thanks for the info but can I ask for a source? I've not been able to find much solid information on the size of the ED universe and I'd love to know where I should be looking.

 

[Arry]

19k inhabited systems i believe.

Edit: yup 19k

Well that's ok then; but 5% more and the systems in place, won't be able to cope.

 

[xondk]

Hrm, general confirmation by searching and finding others that also state this number original source I believe was old old old website looking through with the help of internet archive currently, though might also still be visible somewhere, or maybe it was a dev video.

Edit: can't seem to find anything but will keep searching though i'm fairly sure that is the number, and now curious to find source when I return.

 

[bamber]

If that's an Elite Dangerous number it needs increasing as there are systems with Planetary bases only now as well
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If memory serves me right the bubble is approx. 100000 Systems and around 20000 are inhabited

 

[D4RK5T4R]

How many inhabited systems are there in the ED universe?

I looked at the galaxy map using view by economy type and tried to work it out:

The bubble is sphere of radius about 150 l.y. around Sol.

It is actually pill/capsule shaped

Here is another useful link:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=45117&p=818305&viewfull=1#post818305

 

[cygnusa]

It is actually pill/capsule shaped

http://i.imgur.com/VQW3kBT.jpg



Here is another useful link:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=45117&p=818305&viewfull=1#post818305

In Beta the 'bubble' was pill shaped because only a fraction of the populated systems were available to testers. The bubble was widened as I recall later in the beta, but the galaxy was not entirely available until after official release.

Go into the galaxy map and enable the powerplay view. You can then visually see the bubble as a whole as a culmination of the various factions. There are some populated systems outside of the bubble.. but the vast majority are within the colored areas.

It looks more like this.. though take note this image is also from beta 1.3.. and the powerplay bubbles do shift/change over time.

 

[cmdr m0kn]

It is actually pill/capsule shaped

http://i.imgur.com/VQW3kBT.jpg



Here is another useful link:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=45117&p=818305&viewfull=1#post818305

I think that was the beta's locked bubble, I'm not sure how does it look now tho, but it is definitely bigger now! =)

 

[Charlie Hustle]

Wait!! so outside of the bubble is uninhabited?

 

[Windscreen Smudge]

Wait!! so outside of the bubble is uninhabited?

Mostly.

There are a few outliers like Maia and Colonia, but otherwise it's a barren galaxy.

 

[Mrjupp]

You'll still come across a NPC saying "Good job I found you first, all that juicy cargo".

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

Annnnd, another Necro..... Lol

But a useful one, I did wonder how many inhabited systems there were. And now I know. Lol

And yes, 19,000 systems are inhabited.
The other 399,999,981,000~ are uninhabited.

 

[CMDR Mr. Boombastic]

https://eddb.io/system currently reports 20,214 populated systems and if you go to pages 404 & 405 (Last), 17+ of those systems are outside the bubble (depending on where you define the edge of the bubble).

 

[Sapyx]

The "Bubble proper" is an egg-shaped sphere of space, stretching roughly 200 LY North, South, East and West of Sol, 250 LY Up and 300 LY Down. Take the "powerplay egg" and stretch it out a further 50 LY or so in every direction, to get a rough idea.

Attached to this "bubble" are several spurs, notably the Sothis Spur, Fehu Spur and Maia Spur; these go out to about 500 LY in localized regions. Beyind this, there's nothing except Colonia, the Colonia Road waystations and the two Alliance outposts near the California Nebula.

https://eddb.io/system currently reports 20,214 populated systems and if you go to pages 404 & 405 (Last), 17+ of those systems are outside the bubble (depending on where you define the edge of the bubble).

About 500 of those systems "don't count", as the system may be theoretically "populated" but there are no orbiting or surface installations you can land at, so the system is de facto uninhabited.

Do an EDDB count of "systems with stations" and the number drops to 19,771. Sort by inverse distance and discount Canopus and almost everything further away than Canopus; that's about 44 systems at the moment. That gives you about 19,727 properly inhabited systems within the Bubble. Total human population within the Bubble: roughly 6.6 trillion.

 

[Jarrek2002]

Do an EDDB count of "systems with stations" and the number drops to 19,771. Sort by inverse distance and discount Canopus and almost everything further away than Canopus; that's about 44 systems at the moment. That gives you about 19,727 properly inhabited systems within the Bubble. Total human population within the Bubble: roughly 6.6 trillion.

Nice work! The OP did a good job on his estimate!

 

[AmericaReigns]

How many inhabited systems are there in the ED universe?

I looked at the galaxy map using view by economy type and tried to work it out:

The bubble is sphere of radius about 150 l.y. around Sol. Inside the bubble most star systems have an economy type and are thus populated. Outside the bubble virtually no systems are populated. That's a volume of about 13.8 million cubic light years

The Stellar Density in the region of the milky way is 0.004 stars per cubic light years (source). That gives a number of stars within the bubble of around 55,000. Working out how many of these represent populated systems (given stars can share systems and not every system is populated) is kind of tricky but even if it's 50% then that's about 27,000 populated systems.

Does any one have any better sources for the number of populated systems or how big human civilisation is in the ED universe? I'm curious.

Independent Systems - 8,041
Federal Systems - 6,302
Imperial Systems - 5,262
Alliance Systems - 548
Total Populated Systems in the Milky Way - 20,153

 

[DNA-Decay]

Alliance 3303: 548 Systems.
Alliance 3301: 237 Systems.

Net gain: 311 systems.

Feds have lost about that many and Empire are not far behind on losing ground.
Independents are making up ground.

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGqndJFKOfA

 

[CMDR Mr. Boombastic]

About 500 of those systems "don't count", as the system may be theoretically "populated" but there are no orbiting or surface installations you can land at, so the system is de facto uninhabited.

Not quite sure the 150,000 people on the planet KERRASH in the system TESHUB (62LY from Sol) will be happy about that. Well we have yet to find 'The Missing' and now we have 'The Forgotten'.
It's an ELW hence the reason there is no station (yet), but probably only a few dozen of these types.

Although, as EDDB is crowd-sourced it is likely there are some discrepancies anyway.