How dangerous is Colonia?

[Windsaw]

I haven't played a lot of ED, at least not regularily.
Mostly because I am still mad because of the broken offline promise.

But occasionally I do, especiall if I have to do training for air pistol tournaments. When I travel across the galaxy, the game forces me to do regular waits which is ideal for short weight lifting and concentration excercises.

So I started to move to Colonia a couple of months ago.
This monday, I finally arrived.
I was careful. A lot has changed in these months and I didn't want to die and be reverted back to the bubble. I chose some remote station to land in and was successful. I was careful that no other player was around.

Now, I noticed that the 614 times I honked myself across the galaxy yielded a lot more money that I thought. Seems like the exploration rewards were increased seriously.

I thought that Colonia is an explorer's dream and there isn't much else I can do there. (my only other occupation I enjoy is mining, and I wonder if it is even possible to buy a decent loadout here)

I enjoyed the last days of exploration and getting to know the new mechanics. (where terraformables are etc.)
And then I got careless. I returned to the station with the shipyard. Colonia Dream I think. Problem: It didn't have cartographics. So I left.

And was immediately attacked and destroyed by another player, losing several days of work.

Now, I have been destroyed by other players before. If one out of a hundred players I meet is hostile, I don't mind much.
But this one was only the second player commander I have met so far at colonia!

I am not a fighter. I have severe troubles defending myself against pirates. Against other players I have absolutely no chance.

So, in your experience: Does meeting another player at Colonia mean that you have to get out of where you are ASAP or you have to disconnect if you notice another player infests the station you are in?

 

[Achibot]

I'm afraid I can't address the topic itself, I've never visited the Space Hicks of Colonia but if you prefer an Offline mode why not play in Solo, where no other players are? I know it's not the same in terms of not needing the internet to play, but you won't have issues with any other players for sure.

 

[Windsaw]

I'm afraid I can't address the topic itself, I've never visited the Space Hicks of Colonia but if you prefer an Offline mode why not play in Solo, where no other players are?

I consider Solo cheating.
I wanted the offline mode not because I want to be alone, but because I want to keep playing the game even if the servers are shut down someday.

 

[Jimbodiah]

If Solo is cheating, then getting ganked in Open is just part of tbe game and you have to live with it.

 

[Suvi Anwar]

I consider Solo cheating.
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This is likely the most ridiculous thing I have heard on this forum.

The cure for your issue is in fact, Solo or Private Group mode. There are azzhats all over the galaxy, and Colonia is no exception. Either use the modes given to you by Frontier (made specifically for issues like yours), or continue to be killed by the griefers and lose your long earned credits. It's your choice. [up]

 

[Achibot]

If Solo is cheating, then getting ganked in Open is just part of tbe game and you have to live with it.

That's clearly accepted by OP, I think he is just wondering what the Gank Frequency is in that location, as opposed to complaining about it general.

 

[Sylveria]

Uh, what's this "Colonia" thing again?

 

[Windsaw]

Indeed. My question was how frequent it is here.

I do not call for bans of griefers or anything like that.
I am a bit disappointed however, that there is neither a mechanic in the game that punishes players who do it, nor some sort of self-regulating effect. Choosing criminal activity should be allowed but associated with a big risk IMO.

For the record: I consider any feature of a game that allows to modify the game difficulty on the fly cheating. If a backdoor was left by programmers that allows me to have unlimited health, using it would still be cheating IMO. Buying pay-to-win features is IMO and will always been cheating, no matter how much the developers intended it. Playing through a game and turning down the difficulty every time it gets a little harder is also cheating IMO.

 

[Sylveria]

Indeed. My question was how frequent it is here.

I do not call for bans of griefers or anything like that.
I am a bit disappointed however, that there is neither a mechanic in the game that punishes players who do it, nor some sort of self-regulating effect. Choosing criminal activity should be allowed but associated with a big risk IMO.

For the record: I consider any feature of a game that allows to modify the game difficulty on the fly cheating. If a backdoor was left by programmers that allows me to have unlimited health, using it would still be cheating IMO. Buying pay-to-win features is IMO and will always been cheating, no matter how much the developers intended it. Playing through a game and turning down the difficulty every time it gets a little harder is also cheating IMO.

Yeah, I can see this ending up in the Open vs Solo discussion area pretty quickly...

FYI this is an issue that's long been discussed (and beaten dead, time and time again) since before the release of the game.

 

[Windsaw]

Yeah, I can see this ending up in the Open vs Solo discussion area pretty quickly...

FYI this is an issue that's long been discussed (and beaten dead, time and time again) since before the release of the game.

Really didn't intend it to be.
I really only want to know the state of player interaction at Colonia, at least compared to the Bubble.

But actually, I had to laugh when I read this since it obviously hasn't been beaten dead enough, time and time again if what I wrote was the most ridiculous thing Suvi Anwar has heared on this forum.

 

[Sylveria]

Really didn't intend it to be.
I really only want to know the state of player interaction at Colonia, at least compared to the Bubble.

But actually, I had to laugh when I read this since it obviously hasn't been beaten dead enough, time and time again if what I wrote was the most ridiculous thing Suvi Anwar has heared on this forum.

It's just a really sore spot, which continues to be as the war rages on between PvP/PvE because there's been countless calls to "close" Solo in order to bolster player participation in Open. It's to be expected that you will receive somewhat "empassioned" answers from various people. Just trying to give you a heads up on the topic so you're aware it could create that sort of situation here. (I know that's not what your OP was about, specifically)

 

[Sylveria]

You are right this statement is totally arbitrary and biased. Everyone is free to play by his very own rules of course. But with the same logic an ironman player could say using the ensurance screen is cheating. Or the FA Off player could say the same about FA On, the fixed weapon user about gimballed... and so on. This is just nonsense!

This too.

 

[Achibot]

But actually, I had to laugh when I read this since it obviously hasn't been beaten dead enough, time and time again if what I wrote was the most ridiculous thing Suvi Anwar has heared on this forum.

It should be very simple for you guys to get on the same page though. Unless you care about how other people play Elite vs my reading of the situation where I think you simply want to do your own thing and play your own way. To which there is no possible objection. My suspicion is that your particular choice of words caused Suvi to believe that you were alleging Solo Players are de-facto cheaters (ie breaking the Developer's rules) as opposed to "personal philosophy" cheaters (ie breaking rules you have set for yourself and that don't extend to anyone else).

This is probably most simply expressed as you would consider yourself to be cheating if you availed of the option but don't especially care what anyone else does.

 

[Windsaw]

This is probably most simply expressed as you would consider yourself to be cheating if you availed of the option but don't especially care what anyone else does.

Okay, you are probably right here.
It did not occur to me that this could be looked at this way and that was not my intention.

All I wanted to do was getting the discussion back on topic and only made things worse doing it. I will try to be more careful with what I write.

Anyway, I am tired and annoyed. I just wanted a little opinion on a little aspect of how the game is currently being played and not get in a whole discussion on something only remotely related to the original question.

 

[Achibot]

Okay, you are probably right here.
It did not occur to me that this could be looked at this way and that was not my intention.

All I wanted to do was getting the discussion back on topic and only made things worse doing it. I will try to be more careful with what I write.

Anyway, I am tired and annoyed. I just wanted a little opinion on a little aspect of how the game is currently being played and not get in a whole discussion on something only remotely related to the original question.

I hear you, as a casual Forum user you simply wanted to discuss a minority issue (ganking likelihood at Colonia) with relevant people. You had no way to know that this sort of conversation has heavily weighted trigger-words in respect of the forum regulars and so you, inadvertently, hit some soft spots. Hopefully that's all resolved now and by the time you log in tomorrow a Colonia resident may happen past the thread and be able to offer some relevant advice.

 

[Threeofseven]

Sounds like you just got unlucky. I am usually the most dangerous thing in Colonia. However, I will never actually destroy your ship. I also will not bother you if you are an explorer, running missions, or have no cargo. However, if you are a miner or trader I will accept a small donation

Seriously though, Colonia seems to be dead these days compared to before. I rarely see anyone at all. In fact, I will probably move my ALT account out fairly soon.

 

[Mike Reacher]

Sounds like you just got unlucky. I am usually the most dangerous thing in Colonia. However, I will never actually destroy your ship. I also will not bother you if you are an explorer, running missions, or have no cargo. However, if you are a miner or trader I will accept a small donation

Seriously though, Colonia seems to be dead these days compared to before. I rarely see anyone at all. In fact, I will probably move my ALT account out fairly soon.

I have always thought players in open were in the same instance. From what I have gleaned in these forums is that is not the case.
I have my reasons for Solo-ing, but when i try open, to do exactly the same stuff, I rarely come across another player. (Get lots of action in solo)
I would think the OP has landed in an instance with this ganker, for want of a better word, and he bit the bullet.
But Threeofseven may be in instances of a dearth of players.
Does that make sense, or should I climb back under my rock?

 

[Genus]

It's not a one mode vs another thread. Just potter around as much as you like before you fancy cheating ;-)

 

[Threeofseven]

I have always thought players in open were in the same instance. From what I have gleaned in these forums is that is not the case.
I have my reasons for Solo-ing, but when i try open, to do exactly the same stuff, I rarely come across another player. (Get lots of action in solo)
I would think the OP has landed in an instance with this ganker, for want of a better word, and he bit the bullet.
But Threeofseven may be in instances of a dearth of players.
Does that make sense, or should I climb back under my rock?

No, it makes total sense. There are times I will be at a CG that I know is very crowded from watching other people's live streams, yet it almost looks like I'm in solo play. Usually multiple times logging in and logging out will help. It really should not be like this lol

 

[Bottom Hat]

... There are azzhats all over the galaxy, and Colonia is no exception. ...

My notoriety seems to be spreading far and wide these days ... especially as I haven't even been to Colonia yet ...

Cheers for making me laugh,
The Hat