How do player bounties work?

[Deleted member 182079]

I've racked up a respectable number of bounties over the past few days and have a few questions about these (and before anyone starts screaming GANKERRRRRR!!!11!!1 these were 100% NPC sourced ).

My ship has two bounties attached to it, from two factions. I know that if I'm in the respective jurisdiction and get blown up by bounty hunters (90% sure) or system security (100% sure), bounties are removed while notoriety stays. But I've been thinking about various other scenarios and I don't really want to test them out because I worked hard enough to get those bounties (and have almost gotten rid of my notoriety of 10 again, only a few more hours).

1. What happens to the bounties if I strip the ship of its (engineered) modules (which I can clean) and sell the hull?
2. What happens if I get destroyed by another player (either with and without KWS) while in the wanted ship, but outside of the jurisdiction it's wanted in?
3. What happens if I get destroyed by anything else in the game (say, while doing a surface scan mission) while in the wanted ship, but outside of the jurisdiction it's wanted in?
4. Presumably only the bounty of the controlling faction will be wiped in scenarios 2) and 3)? What if both factions are in the same system, does vicinity to any controlling assets matter?
5. What happens if I clear those bounties (either by destruction, or paying them off, which I'm not planning to do), will this positively affect the BGS somehow?

 

[goemon]

1. they are gone (you paid them off, selling the hull for a reduced price irrc)
2. with a KWS - player gets bounty vouchers to be handed in that jurisdiction or at an interstellar factor. bounties are applied to rebuy costs also.
3. you respawn at the closest station, bounties are applied to rebuy.
4. no.
5. no, you can't influence the BGS by clearing off those bounties, but other players can. i heard of assumptionssome groups using that toget bountyvouchers to redeem (afaik FDEV has not stated, that this is an exploit - but for me personally it feels like one).

generally, c&p is set up in a way, that you can't create CR total by using it with friends.

also it's very usual to use "hot ships" for crimes, and clear ones for everything else (i do this working the BGS).

(disclaimer: if i got anything wrong 1-5, please correct me - above is to the best of my knowledge, but i have not looked into the matterx very closely)

 

[Deleted member 182079]

Thanks for the answers goemon, that sort of aligns with what I expected but wanted to be sure as I haven't really ventured into this part of the game before (beyond getting a small bounty from surface scan missions or accidental pot shots at friendlies, which I'd normally pay off straightaway).

 

[goemon]

i enjoy my stealing much more, since i have some hot ships.

 

[Rat Catcher]

i enjoy my stealing much more, since i have some hot ships.

Hush now!

We all know that crime doesn't pay

 

[Rat Catcher]

(and have almost gotten rid of my notoriety of 10 again, only a few more hours).

I used to go exploring for a few days, back in the day when Notoriety was earned in support of the cause... Oh and when I just had to blow up that Beluga as I needed mats type stuff...

 

[Heater]

Google.....

 

[Rock Hunter]

Google.....

Thankfully Google isn’t always the instant answer to every question. If it were I‘d miss posts like these that discuss topics I’ve been thinking about but weren’t at the top of my ‘must Google‘ list. I’d also miss the discussion, naff jokes and descent into craziness...every thread seems to descend into craziness at the moment, waiting for Odyssey has clearly sent us all mad.

Plus, half of the ED things I try to Google an answer to give me out of date information from any point between 2014 and 2019 when Beyond came out (or was that 2018, I’ll Google it later.)

 

[Rock Hunter]

I’ve never really let bounties rack up on any of my ships, preferring to pay them off as I go. Yet I keep hearing about ‘hot ships’ for naughty business, does being wanted cause constant interdictions and hassle or just a little extra spice? I kind of like the idea of doing all my underworld dealings in a filthy ship and not bothering finding an IF all the time.

 

[Rat Catcher]

I’ve never really let bounties rack up on any of my ships, preferring to pay them off as I go. Yet I keep hearing about ‘hot ships’ for naughty business, does being wanted cause constant interdictions and hassle or just a little extra spice? I kind of like the idea of doing all my underworld dealings in a filthy ship and not bothering finding an IF all the time.

It really depends on how many factions you manage to get Hostile with, really... Dropping into a system (or trying to land on your FC) and having all of the local law-keepers trying to 'do unto you' is quite good fun! Just remember to leave, discreetly, when the ATC arrive - they have been known to not 'play nice' on occasion

 

[goemon]

I’ve never really let bounties rack up on any of my ships, preferring to pay them off as I go. Yet I keep hearing about ‘hot ships’ for naughty business, does being wanted cause constant interdictions and hassle or just a little extra spice? I kind of like the idea of doing all my underworld dealings in a filthy ship and not bothering finding an IF all the time.

it really depends on what and where you are doing. interdictions are rare, but increase with more bounties - and planetary stuff is no problem. going with a wanted ship somewhere with system security (high res) can be a problem, and you sometimes get bountyhunters around haz res or comp nav beacons (i sometimes use haz res to get stolen cargo plus crimes for bgs reasons). i mainly use hot ships for pve piracy with interdictions (no problem there) and the various illegal planetary missions (got a nice dbs for that). and i have two very hot haulers for abandoning missions with fines - one is called Scapegoat, the other Scapa Flow.

 

[Deleted member 182079]

I used to go exploring for a few days, back in the day when Notoriety was earned in support of the cause... Oh and when I just had to blow up that Beluga as I needed mats type stuff...

Yeah I'm mining at the moment, though that's more because I want to extend my FC's outfitting options

Funny thing is, it doesn't really impede my regular gameplay as long as I stick to legal missions - and having a bounty on one ship (as long as it remains the only one...) removes the need to clear them, because I fitted it for all sorts of heinous tasks (Frag Clipper with piracy gear and SRV).

What spices things up as well is getting Hostile with factions - can make life a bit more challenging in small villages like Colonia Very easy to rectify with a little bounty hunting though, a casual session yields 12m which is more than enough to get back into 'Unfriendly' state which is fine for docking and running missions in their controlled systems.

Thankfully Google isn’t always the instant answer to every question. If it were I‘d miss posts like these that discuss topics I’ve been thinking about but weren’t at the top of my ‘must Google‘ list. I’d also miss the discussion, naff jokes and descent into craziness...every thread seems to descend into craziness at the moment, waiting for Odyssey has clearly sent us all mad.

Plus, half of the ED things I try to Google an answer to give me out of date information from any point between 2014 and 2019 when Beyond came out (or was that 2018, I’ll Google it later.)

Well said.

I’ve never really let bounties rack up on any of my ships, preferring to pay them off as I go. Yet I keep hearing about ‘hot ships’ for naughty business, does being wanted cause constant interdictions and hassle or just a little extra spice? I kind of like the idea of doing all my underworld dealings in a filthy ship and not bothering finding an IF all the time.

See above, it can be fun having to circumvent security for fear of getting attacked - and around stations and ports this can hurt if you're not prepared - easy enough to work around though once you know how the systems work. Since my Clipper is not a pure combat build, once ATR shows up it's "ooops I better get the hell out of here" time.

 

[goemon]

a casual session yields 12m which is more than enough to get back into 'Unfriendly' state which is fine for docking and running missions in their controlled systems.

i'm not sure on bountie values, but a cmdr shared his testing on current trade reputation gain - that is capped at 1,5 mio profit of a max gain of 15% reputation per sell; i use that number for BHing as well.

actually my procedure when using piracy for BGS work is using a haz res (for crimes against and stolen cargo from pve miners), shooting some pirates there as well - and using the bounties from the latter at an interstellar factor out of system or a different presence of that faction in another system to get back from hostile to unfriendly to get docking allowance back if i need.

 

[Deleted member 182079]

i'm not sure on bountie values, but a cmdr shared his testing on current trade reputation gain - that is capped at 1,5 mio profit ofr a max gain of 15% reputation per sell; i use that number for BHing as well.

I see - well I tend to cash it in on my FC so usually end with with less, but I normally rack up that much because once you're in the swing of things and Condas keep queuing up... blowing up stuff never gets old! And it's good credits as an aside.

 

[goemon]

I see - well I tend to cash it in on my FC so usually end with with less, but I normally rack up that much because once you're in the swing of things and Condas keep queuing up... blowing up stuff never gets old! And it's good credits as an aside.

see, that's how people differ - before i clear another conda in the queue, i much prefer to do another trade run between some interesting markets

 

[Deleted member 182079]

see, that's how people differ - before i clear another conda in the queue, i much prefer to do another trade run between some interesting markets

Heh - for me it really just depends what I'm in the mood for but the combat payout increases are pretty juicy and motivate me more these days to visit a RES.

I'm kind of at a stage though where I'm trying to better understand the BGS, and what kind of effect each activity has - I remember I used to scoff at the idea of getting more involved in it but until Odyssey hits it'll keep me busy and engaged.

 

[Rat Catcher]

I’d also miss the discussion, naff jokes and descent into craziness...every thread seems to descend into craziness at the moment...

It is quite odd, recently threads have descended into craziness, it's true
But there is less (noticably) intolerence than previously, which is always good...

Wan't the best in craziness? Follow @Bottom Hat

 

[Bottom Hat]

It is quite odd, recently threads have descended into craziness, it's true
But there is less (noticably) intolerence than previously, which is always good...

Wan't the best in craziness? Follow @Bottom Hat

How dare thee exemplify me without permission?! Thoroughly outrageous, and correct.

Whilst on the topic of player bounties, I've often wondered something important. You know how water goes down the drain in different directions, depending what hemisphere you are in? Well, it has made me think that the same rule of scienceness should be equally applied to people using athletic tracks.

That is all, but discuss please.

 

[Rock Hunter]

It is quite odd, recently threads have descended into craziness, it's true
But there is less (noticably) intolerence than previously, which is always good...

Wan't the best in craziness? Follow @Bottom Hat

Yeah, perhaps daftness would have been a better word, certainly enjoyable as has been the general increase in tolerance.

 

[Rat Catcher]

Yeah, perhaps daftness would have been a better word, certainly enjoyable as has been the general increase in tolerance.

Craziness is a good word, and wasn't being used unkindly, quite apt too!