How far is no fire zone from station?

How far is no fire zone from station? For dropping off and picking up cargo without a fine? Do you really have to go out 15KM from station?
 
About 2.5km, it may vary with the various station types. You can dump cargo whilst docked without receiving a fine.
 
Yeah so no way do you have to go out 15km right. Anybody dragging you out there is looking to perhaps attack you or permit another player to pop in on silent running and ambush right?
 
Yeah so no way do you have to go out 15km right. Anybody dragging you out there is looking to perhaps attack you or permit another player to pop in on silent running and ambush right?
That'd be my first guess. At 15k you're probably well outside the range of security patrols too.
 
It entirely depends on the length of the station, how far it sticks out the back effects the distance of the NFZ at the front.

The longer ones can be up to 10km.

Bear in mind at that distance any cargo dropped will disappear from your instance if you leave it out there and return to the station for any reason.
 
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Yeah so no way do you have to go out 15km right. Anybody dragging you out there is looking to perhaps attack you or permit another player to pop in on silent running and ambush right?

If another cmdr asked me to do that for a transfer I'd only show up in my nasty FdL. Sounds wat yoo fishy.
 
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Yeah so no way do you have to go out 15km right. Anybody dragging you out there is looking to perhaps attack you or permit another player to pop in on silent running and ambush right?


Agreed. Looks shifty. :)
Someone's trying to lure you far enough, so you can't run back to safety of station's AA guns.
 
Yeah so no way do you have to go out 15km right. Anybody dragging you out there is looking to perhaps attack you or permit another player to pop in on silent running and ambush right?

The amount of cargo containers that can exist in an instance at once is limited, and the limit is lower when you're close to a station. If you're exchanging large amounts of cargo with another player, it's recommended to be at least 10km from the station to reduce the chance of the game deleting most of the cargo for performance reasons.
 
Yeah so no way do you have to go out 15km right. Anybody dragging you out there is looking to perhaps attack you or permit another player to pop in on silent running and ambush right?


Possibly, why? Is someone asking to swap cargo with you 15km out? Tbh I wouldn't swap with someone on the no fire zone border, I'd do it further out past the police patrol & station weapon range (Even if the transfer involved legal abandoning) You just never know with this game, better safe than sorry.

Even with the threat of an ambush, you can collect cargo with 4 pips in shields and a high wake locked and ready in case things go wrong. If you are really paranoid, bring a buddy along, iced up out of detection range.. This is starting to sound like a Colombian drug deal..
 
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I always go more than 10km out. I use an Anaconda in a second account to store engineers commodities, so i have to keep dropping and picking up cargo between ships. I found that I get fined inside 10km.
 
I was going to do a 10 ton of painite hand off on demand for 5 million. Guy had a heavily modified engineered Python was refusing to refit it so he could only do 64 tons at a time. For that level of pay it was going to be about 300+ slaves. Which would have been about 6 round trips for slaves. I was on a time crunch and he was dilly dallying around. Here is the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11axg4fA0hE. I had 14 collectors which will pick up 60 tons of cargo in about 30 seconds from any angle so I was like drop the first load and he was all we need to be farther from the station and he kept leaving my field of view. So I'm in a stock Anaconda and he's in an Engineered Python and I'm flying without my rebuy and it just felt fishy. So I aborted the situation. I figured he might have a friend coming in on silent or he might be looking for a good angle to strafe or just wanted to frak around.
 
I was going to do a 10 ton of painite hand off on demand for 5 million. Guy had a heavily modified engineered Python was refusing to refit it so he could only do 64 tons at a time. For that level of pay it was going to be about 300+ slaves. Which would have been about 6 round trips for slaves. I was on a time crunch and he was dilly dallying around. Here is the vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11axg4fA0hE. I had 14 collectors which will pick up 60 tons of cargo in about 30 seconds from any angle so I was like drop the first load and he was all we need to be farther from the station and he kept leaving my field of view. So I'm in a stock Anaconda and he's in an Engineered Python and I'm flying without my rebuy and it just felt fishy. So I aborted the situation. I figured he might have a friend coming in on silent or he might be looking for a good angle to strafe or just wanted to frak around.

60 canisters is WAY too many to dump within the no-fire zone. Half of them would be deleted by the instance cleanup code the instant they're dumped. He was right to want to move 10km+ from the station, where the cargo limits are much less strict. Him moving out of your field of vision is also totally innocent - being positioned properly to jettison cargo toward the other person's cargo hatch speeds up cargo collection quite a bit. And frankly, if he was planning on ambushing and murdering you, he wouldn't NEED to lure you away from the station - there are much cleverer tricks he could have used to lull you into a false sense of security, like arranging the handoff outside a station that declares a no-fire zone but doesn't actually enforce it (yes, these exist, and are fairly common if you know what to look for).

From the information you've given, I'd say the other person's intentions were completely innocent, and that you were overly paranoid because you don't know that much about the game mechanics of cargo exchanging and how to set up an efficient exchange without getting screwed by the instance cleanup code. Of course, there was another contributing factor to your paranoia that needs to be addressed: DON'T EVER FLY WITHOUT A REBUY. ESPECIALLY IN A SHIP THAT COSTS MORE THAN A HUNDRED MILLION CREDITS. Sell the Anaconda and buy it back when you can actually afford it.
 
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