General / Off-Topic How in the hell did we do it !!

synchromesh

synchromesh
I was looking at some kickstarters and came to a big question...

I thought how did Elite get funded.....Seriously we had nothing....No vids, gameplay...Maybe some concept art but other than that it was just faith....Vids did come later but not much..

Just been looking at this game and it has all the ingredients needed for a great game but no where near its target...
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/858695532/space-shock-0

So I think to raise 2.5 million with very little to go on was a huge achievement
and really shows what Elite means in gaming history..

But thinking back.....God we must have had some luck !! :)
 
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JeffRyan

JeffRyan
Yeah I think it's clear that Frontier is lucky. The kids who originally played it are all in their mid-thirties to early fifties, most of us now have some sort of disposable income and it's clear from the passion on these forums. We LOVED Elite. And to a lesser extent the sequels. And for years most of us have being searching google (or yahoo back in the day) for word on a sequel and when a chance came to be involved in that sequel and have yourself inserted, via NPC names, Space Stations, Planets, Systems, we jumped at the chance.
 

Slawkenbergius

Slawkenbergius
Indeed. If somebody else had bought the rights to the Elite franchise, and it was a completely unrelated company making a reboot, I wouldn't have donated more than a tenner. If the average pledge was £10, then the game would have died sub-£300k.

It's a bit scary to think how wrong it could have gone.
 

PacalB

PacalB
Actually, there's a hell of a lot of sleepers and lurkers out there whom have been praying for decades for this remake. Way more than have voiced themselves on these forums. :cool:
 

Aewarin Jameson

Aewarin Jameson
synchromesh said:
Same with Chris Roberts I guess....
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To a degree yes ... I didn't know who CR was though which admittedly wasn't the main reason for not backing him, but I thought he was a money grabbing oik who'd sell his grandma for the next pledge tier level .. Unfair, maybe, but I judge by what I saw. Stunningly slick presentation and the vids did look cool, but over time the facade dropped and that's what was left.

DB was very conservative in his approach, far too conservative, but it worked so kudos to him.
 

synchromesh

synchromesh
Liqua said:
To a degree yes ... I didn't know who CR was though which admittedly wasn't the main reason for not backing him, but I thought he was a money grabbing oik who'd sell his grandma for the next pledge tier level .. Unfair, maybe, but I judge by what I saw. Stunningly slick presentation and the vids did look cool, but over time the facade dropped and that's what was left.

DB was very conservative in his approach, far too conservative, but it worked so kudos to him.
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SO WHATS THE PROBLEM WITH SELLING YOUR GRANDMA FOR PLEDGE MONEY

I did it 3 times...And tried to sell a kidney as well....Granted it was the wifes but still that's dedication for you :D
 
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Minti2

Deadly, But very fluffy...
Minti2
PacalB said:
Actually, there's a hell of a lot of sleepers and lurkers out there whom have been praying for decades for this remake. Way more than have voiced themselves on these forums. :cool:
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Agree, plenty of guests looking on, and i expect on game release for the membership numbers to shoot up considerably!..hopefully! :p

Also whos looking at the Thargoid thread? it goes up on views alot every day, personally i only click on it about a hundred times a day, but who are the others!? :D
 

Calebe

C
Elite was one of the games I looked forward to on the Commodore 64 and I remember driving 30+ miles to a store to pick it up as soon as I knew they had it in stock. Since then I have missed the open ended game play it afforded. True I played Privateer and that was as close as I ever got to Elite again, but just wants the same.

I saw the Kickstarter for Elite thanks to Star Citizen. Chris Roberts even mentioned it and asked people to back it which I of course did. No I didn't need his encouragement, but it was because of that web site I knew the funding was happening, and here I am.

Now I wait for the game to be released and while I am backing this and Start Citizen both I think this game has the potential to have longer lasting interest as the universe is larger and has greater potential as long as there are always new things to discover and explore.

Calebe
 

insanephoton

insanephoton
When you consider how little publicity there was about it and some of that was negative (some opinion pieces in some of the gaming magazines). It is something of a miracle that just under 30k of us decided to pledge enough to reach the target.

So it seems it was a combination of nostalgia, luck and sheer blind faith.

@TheLoneGunman I usually check it several times a day, especially if I'm contributing. Sometimes it's hard to keep up with the plot line , especially when characters turn up out of the blue;)
 

Adam Lusardi

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I think it was due to good planning asking for the right amount of money, decent pledge levels, having a feel for the target audience and getting the right response knowing they have something to take to the market. I wouldn't have responded to this thread but just looking at "Ubuntu sets crowdfund pledge record for Edge smartphone" on bbc website shows how it can go wrong. I'm not saying FD got it completely right but not far off.
 
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Minti2

Deadly, But very fluffy...
Minti2
insanephoton said:
When you consider how little publicity there was about it and some of that was negative (some opinion pieces in some of the gaming magazines). It is something of a miracle that just under 30k of us decided to pledge enough to reach the target.

So it seems it was a combination of nostalgia, luck and sheer blind faith.

@TheLoneGunman I usually check it several times a day, especially if I'm contributing. Sometimes it's hard to keep up with the plot line , especially when characters turn up out of the blue;)
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On the OP, agree, i remember it was seeming a close call whether ED would get the funding, but have to say since then the forum has been addictive and fun, and thats down to a great combination of friendly, mostly mature! humorous characters, couldn't imagine there would be no ED now!

and seriously! you dont remember your brother Richard? lol :p

To be honest its slowing right down, i think every mission/pub question possible has been done....to death! hopefully new people will turn up to refresh the thread, but its still good fun anyway :)
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
For my part, 1 or 2 times a year I looked on google "Elite IV". I was very lucky to look at the right time this time it. Frontier Elite II has sold 500,000 copies in Europe. And in the world ? How many to FFE? and how many for the original Elite ? On a few million players, there were 25,000 Kickstarter backers who have heard of the project. What seems normal finally.
 

Andrew Sayers

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Adam Lusardi said:
"Ubuntu sets crowdfund pledge record for Edge smartphone"
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I try to like Ubuntu, but they do keep coming up with great ideas then fumbling the implementation. I just checked out their indiegogo page, and they really haven't understood how to get people to increase their pledges. FD realised during their campaign a £5 gap between pledge levels was too much to make an impulse jonty, whereas Ubuntu have a minimum pledge at $20, a T-shirt at $50, then the next pledge levels are $700 and $7,000. Nobody's ever going to increase to the next pledge level that way, no matter how committed they are.

Like many others, my wallet opened the moment I heard David Braben say the magic word. But I pledged at the level I did because I could look down the list of rewards and find the exact point where cost and benefit met. They may not have been the world's best salesmen, but they absolutely knew how to make people put their hand in their pocket.
 

Gibbon

Gibbon
Most of us who heard about the campaign put something into the kitty, me included as i never thought it would be made after hearing nothing for so long. True fans of the first three games will always want to play a new version, specially after so long, and i'm no different. The amount raised is fantastic and hopefully with some corporate backing as well, we finally have what we've all been craving for.

On a side note, think how Chris Roberts fans are feeling though, $20 million raised, just hope he gets it right in his Star Citizen game as well because then as players, we are all in for a treat with two superb games... coming soon
 

natte hond

natte hond
heroes

PacalB said:
Actually, there's a hell of a lot of sleepers and lurkers out there whom have been praying for decades for this remake. Way more than have voiced themselves on these forums. :cool:
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I totally agree on this.

every one I know who played Elite And frontier Elite
has still good memories of the game and most still want to give it a go.
or at least show there relatives what they where talking about.

It must be a hell of pressure for trying to recreate such a experience.
But I know David Braben and his team can pull it of again.

just for programming a galaxy in 720k Ian and David will be programming heroes always.
 

Darren Grey

Darren Grey
synchromesh said:
Just been looking at this game and it has all the ingredients needed for a great game but no where near its target...
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/858695532/space-shock-0
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Because it's a terrible Kickstarter. They claim to be unique when they're anything but, their screenshots and video are just stock Unreal assets, they give no details about their experiences or assurance that they can deliver on a big project, and all of the text is terribly written with broken English in many places. There's nothing exciting about the game in any way (it'll have helmets and gloves, oh wow!) It has no personality, it has no charm, and those are the things that make a Kickstarter successful. Generic Space RPG 74 was just doomed to fail.

Elite had a dominant brand name and David Braben, both big elements of its success. It stood out and had enough base support and momentum before ever starting the project.
 

Sir.Tj

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Sir.Tj
synchromesh said:
I was looking at some kickstarters and came to a big question...

I thought how did Elite get funded.....Seriously we had nothing....No vids, gameplay...Maybe some concept art but other than that it was just faith....Vids did come later but not much..

Just been looking at this game and it has all the ingredients needed for a great game but no where near its target...
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/858695532/space-shock-0

So I think to raise 2.5 million with very little to go on was a huge achievement
and really shows what Elite means in gaming history..

But thinking back.....God we must have had some luck !! :)
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Looks as if its been cancelled.
 
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