How is the system state determined?
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On the galaxy map? Yes, that's the state of the controlling faction.
If the controlling faction has multiple states, only one is shown on the galaxy map; I don't recall what the priority order is.
If the controlling faction has multiple states, only one is shown on the galaxy map; I don't recall what the priority order is.
It's worth noting, "System State" is nothing more than that representation on the galaxy map. There's no such thing as a "system state" that has tangible BGS effects (with exception of the Thargoid ones)
Nice, thanks.
Do you know how this multiple state condition is defined?
The journal lists all factions in a given system/station and each faction has just one state (for that system).
Thanks for confirming. That was my assumption from looking at the way it's defined in the journal but I wasn't sure.
Nevermind. I may have found that answer to my question above. It appears that some factions have a list of "active states" in addition to the faction state.
Yes, that's the one. FactionState is mostly irrelevant nowadays and I think just kept around to stop - by now - really old code breaking. ActiveStates is the one you want.
I just analyzed some data and there are still cases where FactionState is defined and ActiveStates is not defined. I think I'll just use the FactionState as a fallback in case there are no active states. If for no other reason than there being nothing else available to use in that case.
FactionState dates from the pre-3.3 BGS (almost six years ago, now) where a faction could only have one state at once and it applied to every system it was present in.
If a faction has FactionState but not ActiveStates, have a look at what the situation really is in-game before concluding anything: I would expect state None in the system the journal entry was from, with the state mentioned in FactionState (plus maybe others too) in some other system the faction is present in.
I threw in some examples below. These are pulled from an EDDN feed yesterday.
The first faction's state is from this system:
Asterope - star system | Elite:Dangerous | INARA
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Their active state was Boom on August 18th and haven't had any active states since then.
I suppose I can just ignore FactionState altogether and only look at ActiveStates? If ActiveStates isn't there then I just assume it's a "None" state. That's assuming FactionState is truly deprecated and needs to be ignored. It'd be nice if there was some place that was documented.
JSON:
{
"Allegiance": "Independent",
"FactionState": "Boom",
"Government": "Cooperative",
"Happiness": "$Faction_HappinessBand1;",
"Influence": 0.161,
"Name": "Operation Ida"
}
{
"Allegiance": "Independent",
"FactionState": "Boom",
"Government": "Cooperative",
"Happiness": "",
"Influence": 0.217962,
"Name": "Colonia Co-operative",
"PendingStates": [
{
"State": "CivilLiberty",
"Trend": 0
}
],
"RecoveringStates": [
{
"State": "Expansion",
"Trend": 0
}
]
}
{
"Allegiance": "Federation",
"FactionState": "Outbreak",
"Government": "Corporate",
"Happiness": "$Faction_HappinessBand2;",
"Influence": 0.197593,
"Name": "Exphiay Blue Transport Corp",
"RecoveringStates": [
{
"State": "InfrastructureFailure",
"Trend": 0
}
]
}Yes, that's probably the right way to do it. We haven't had an update to the published Journal specification - https://hosting.zaonce.net/community/journal/v34/Journal_Manual_v34.pdf - for over two years, so it's all just checking the Journal vs the game to figure out what things do nowadays.
Checking in-game, Operation IDA have no states in Asterope but are in Boom in several other systems.
Great, that clears things up for me. Thank you Ian.