Newcomer / Intro How to regain a permit to go to a system

Thanks for replying. Just found my answer too. At least I made money there. Where would you suggest I go for trading? I’m basically a noob flying a type 6 transporter.
 
Thanks for replying. Just found my answer too. At least I made money there. Where would you suggest I go for trading? I’m basically a noob flying a type 6 transporter.
Anywhere, though if you play in open avoid hotspots such as engineers.

I would wander around until you find some place you like and then stay there and start build up rep with the local factions. Or just keep wandering and see where your travel takes you!
 
For trading you need to look for the states systems are in and I guess, you need to account for a lot more than in the starter area. More risk, more reward I think.
I'm not doing a lot of trading, but I did my share, and when looking for a start, I guess the safest bet is peddling medicine from low-selling ports to systems in outbreak state, or food to systems in famine state. But there's a lot more to trading, which other people might be able to explain better than me.

My advice for making some real money, is getting into mining. There are a lot great tutorials for that out on the net, and once you got into it it's a lot easier then it seems. Just be sure to start with the easy stuff if you're still pretty unexperienced, and my advice for getting familiar with flying, would be to ditch the docking computer and dock manually, if you haven't already. That way you will learn to control your ship and will have a much easier time when navigating through rings and blowing up asteroids. Elite is a game about space ship simulation after all.
 
Ditched the auto land. But may go back to viper as just been attacked in a transporter, and it’s sooo slow. Either cobra or viper -whichever I had before.
 
The T6 is a great ship for money making. If it were me - and everyone is different - I'd make my way to Diaguandri and get allied with all factions there by running cargo delivery missions.
 
Thanks for replying. Just found my answer too. At least I made money there. Where would you suggest I go for trading? I’m basically a noob flying a type 6 transporter.

Too many options, really. Slave trading is the most profitable, but it's something I have never done. Also highly profitable: ship basic medicines (from a High Tech system in Boom state) to a system in Outbreak state. If you don't mind long trips (and they will seem even longer unless you unlock the Engineers and can get them to upgrade your FSD), rare goods trading can be very profitable, too. Rare goods are things that are only produced at one station, and they can be sold everywhere. The further away from that station, the more you will get for them (topping out at ~160 ly). For example (I'm not suggesting that example to you - the pick up is a bit of a slough), I'm currently shipping Hutton Mugs as part of the Operation HOT-MESS. Pick-up price is a few hundred credits per ton, sales price where I am (some 200 ly away in some Imperial backwater) varies around 15,000-16,000 Cr..
There are some websites that still have the old rare routes descriptions - circular routes that lead you around the bubble, buying and selling rare items.

But: trading on your own account in a small ship is one of the less profitable occupations. Other things which will be more profitable are:
  • exploration. Scan systems and planets, and then sell the scan data (you'll need to be more than 20 ly from the place you scanned). Some systems can be worth tens of millions.
  • missions. The first missions just will pay a few thousands, but as your reputation with the mission givers rises (so stick around a certain area), you will be offered better paying missions (which also may carry the disadvantage of a higher risk, so read the descriptions carefully)
  • of course, the current gold rush is in mining
  • combat. Some missions will require you to go out there and kill them. Or you can go out on your own, find wanted ships and kill them for the money.
  • there are other missions on the shadier side of the spectrum - from espionage (scan other faction's data beacons) via picking up illegal goods and killing single ships to undercover wetwork. Your mission giver will love you and pay well, but that comes at the price of angering the people these missions are against
 
Where would you suggest I go for trading? I’m basically a noob flying a type 6 transporter.

There will be as many different answers as replies.

I'd suggest using EDDB and throwing a dart at it.


No, forget the dart. But put your current system in as the reference. Set faction state to boom. Filter by whatever is appealing or important to you, like the superpower alignment you want to gain rank with, population or systems that have cool names :)

Settle down somewhere so you can begin raising faction rep to get better missions down the line.
 
... and some missions also offer engineer materials although for lesser credits.
How to you find the planets/places? Is it just looking randomly, or is there a search ‘key’? I’ve 50 t of slaves at moment but don’t know where to take them?? I really want to get around Sirius and earth etc, but can’t find them.
 
How to you find the planets/places?

Check previous post :D

I'm sure you were typing your message as I was submitting mine.

But yeah, you can use EDDB (and other sources) to find these place. Inara is great too. Much better than trying to do it with methods within the game I think. And Elite is the most alt-tab friendly game there is thankfully.


 
At the edge of the bubble is the best place to run loads of missions. This is because a lot of missions will be to the same location as there are few starport close by.
 
How to you find the planets/places? Is it just looking randomly, or is there a search ‘key’? I’ve 50 t of slaves at moment but don’t know where to take them?? I really want to get around Sirius and earth etc, but can’t find them.

Use search on the Galaxy Map to find systems [note: Sirius and Sol (where Earth is) are permit locked, you need to earn their permit to go to them].

Note also that you can use Ctrl+V to paste into the search input box (if you are on PC) - right-click doesn't work.

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One further thing that seems to be not well known:

Note that you can put planet names and station names in the search box and the galaxy map will go to the system which contains that - keep redoing (clicking) the search to cycle though the qualifying systems.

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Ditched the auto land. But may go back to viper as just been attacked in a transporter, and it’s sooo slow. Either cobra or viper -whichever I had before.
There's a trick to flying a T6 where if you're in the blue, left and right yaw is pretty good for what's basically a space stobarts truck
 
Regarding your 50 tons of slaves (I just might have to come over and hunt you down for that :devilish: - where are you btw?😇) - first of all, you'll need to find a port where they're not illegal. I just checked EDDB, around the core worlds, there's not a lot of upwards variation, 14k was the best I could find.
Go to EDDB, click on "Trading" -> "Find Commoditiy" (top right). Then select what you have in your hold (Slaves in that case), enter the system you are currently in, select "sell", choose if you want to (or cannot use) planetary ports and if you have any restrictions on landing pad sizes (i.e. you're flying a big ship), then hit "find stations".

That'll get you a list of reasonably close by stations that will buy (or, at one time in the past, would have bought) slaves, and the prices they pay. You can then sort that table by clicking on the column headers. Just be careful - that data is not real time data from the game, it has been assembled by CMDRs (players) who visited those stations (if you're on PC, you can contribute to that by running e.g. EDMC or EDDiscovery or any of a number of similar tools in the background). Therefore, the data may be more or less out of date - as indicated by the clock column. The prices will depend on the BGS, the BackGround Simulation, which ticks every day around noon-ish UTC - the older the data shown in EDDB is, the less reliable it will be. Anything older than a week you can forget straight away.
 
Too many options, really. Slave trading is the most profitable, but it's something I have never done. Also highly profitable: ship basic medicines (from a High Tech system in Boom state) to a system in Outbreak state. If you don't mind long trips (and they will seem even longer unless you unlock the Engineers and can get them to upgrade your FSD), rare goods trading can be very profitable, too. Rare goods are things that are only produced at one station, and they can be sold everywhere. The further away from that station, the more you will get for them (topping out at ~160 ly). For example (I'm not suggesting that example to you - the pick up is a bit of a slough), I'm currently shipping Hutton Mugs as part of the Operation HOT-MESS. Pick-up price is a few hundred credits per ton, sales price where I am (some 200 ly away in some Imperial backwater) varies around 15,000-16,000 Cr..
There are some websites that still have the old rare routes descriptions - circular routes that lead you around the bubble, buying and selling rare items.

But: trading on your own account in a small ship is one of the less profitable occupations. Other things which will be more profitable are:
  • exploration. Scan systems and planets, and then sell the scan data (you'll need to be more than 20 ly from the place you scanned). Some systems can be worth tens of millions.
  • missions. The first missions just will pay a few thousands, but as your reputation with the mission givers rises (so stick around a certain area), you will be offered better paying missions (which also may carry the disadvantage of a higher risk, so read the descriptions carefully)
  • of course, the current gold rush is in mining
  • combat. Some missions will require you to go out there and kill them. Or you can go out on your own, find wanted ships and kill them for the money.
  • there are other missions on the shadier side of the spectrum - from espionage (scan other faction's data beacons) via picking up illegal goods and killing single ships to undercover wetwork. Your mission giver will love you and pay well, but that comes at the price of angering the people these missions are against
Last time I checked Hutton Mugs are unavailable due to state of the faction people are being asked to ship stuff to one of the truckers other stations to fix things, more details in the thread over in the sticky section of Dangerous Discussions.
 
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