Newcomer / Intro How to tell which systems hostile to Li Yong-Rui

[CMDRQuainMarln]

I've started a second commander, so been playing EDH for some time.
I'm new to this power play business and want pack hounds, so pledged to Li Yong-Rui.
Thing is I need to do stuff like trade with 50 markets to unlock engineers and I don't know how to tell which systems will be hostile to me until I get there. It seems random, but I'm sure there is logic to it.
How can I work out which systems are hostile for me?

 

[Dillon Fallon]

Take a look in the galmap. One of the tabs changes the view you have of systems- one of these shows you all the powerplay systems and what power they're controlled/exploited by.

Any Imperial/Federation power should be hostile along with Eddie Mahon.

 

[d8veh]

I've started a second commander, so been playing EDH for some time.
I'm new to this power play business and want pack hounds, so pledged to Li Yong-Rui.
How can I work out which systems are hostile for me?

It's dead easy. You don't have to look up anything. Nobody is hostile to you. You will see "Hostile" by your fuel gauge whenever you're not in LYR space, but it doesn't mean anything except you're not in LYR space. Nobody will attack you and nothing will restrict your access to anywhere, assuming that you're in Solo. In other words, it makes no difference to your gameplay whether you're pledged to any PP power or not. In open, some people role play, but you're probably more likely get blown up by someone that lives a sad life just because you're in front of them.

If I'm absolutely honest, when you do bounty farming, very occasionally some oposing PP ships can turn up, but they're usually very weak ships - typically an Adder and something else in a wing. They will be marked "enemy". On most occasions that this happens, they scan you, then make a comment like "you're too strong for me", "It's not worth my life to fight you" or anything like that, then they start shooting the pirates, which helps you. Most of the time, you're not even aware that they're there. I've never seen them when mining, hauling, exploring or anything like that.

 

[CMDRQuainMarln]

It's dead easy. You don't have to look up anything. Nobody is hostile to you. You will see "Hostile" by your fuel gauge whenever you're not in LYR space, but it doesn't mean anything except you're not in LYR space. Nobody will attack you and nothing will restrict your access to anywhere, assuming that you're in Solo. In other words, it makes no difference to your gameplay whether you're pledged to any PP power or not. In open, some people role play, but you're probably more likely get blown up by someone that lives a sad life just because you're in front of them.

If I'm absolutely honest, when you do bounty farming, very occasionally some oposing PP ships can turn up, but they're usually very weak ships - typically an Adder and something else in a wing. They will be marked "enemy". On most occasions that this happens, they scan you, then make a comment like "you're too strong for me", "It's not worth my life to fight you" or anything like that, then they start shooting the pirates, which helps you. Most of the time, you're not even aware that they're there. I've never seen them when mining, hauling, exploring or anything like that.

The one time I've entered a hostile station in the past the station defences destroyed my ship. There is reference on Reddit to this happening. My experience might have been down to taking too long to find my landing pad - it was early in my time with EDH.
So we're saying a hostile space station won't destroy your ship?
I can enter engineer bases in hostile systems OK.

 

[d8veh]

The one time I've entered a hostile station in the past the station defences destroyed my ship. There is reference on Reddit to this happening. My experience might have been down to taking too long to find my landing pad - it was early in my time with EDH.
So we're saying a hostile space station won't destroy your ship?
I can enter engineer bases in hostile systems OK.

Red hostile stations are nothing to do with powerplay.
Stations go red and attack you when you become hostile to the controlling faction, normally by doing massacre missions against them or killing their non-wanted ships or other crimes against them.

I've been pledged to some power for something like 90% of the 9000+ hours I have in the game, so nearly all the time I see "Hostile" by my fuel gauge. I've never been attacked for any reason to do with powerplay, except before Horizons, when bounty farming Pirates in a RES, you used to get a random FDL drop in and start shooting you, but as I said above, that seems to have been tamed down now to an Adder and a similar ship that don't even attack you.

 

[CMDRQuainMarln]

Red hostile stations are nothing to do with powerplay.
Stations go red and attack you when you become hostile to the controlling faction, normally by doing massacre missions against them or killing their non-wanted ships or other crimes against them.

I've been pledged to some power for something like 90% of the 9000+ hours I have in the game, so nearly all the time I see "Hostile" by my fuel gauge. I've never been attacked for any reason to do with powerplay, except before Horizons, when bounty farming Pirates in a RES, you used to get a random FDL drop in and start shooting you, but as I said above, that seems to have been tamed down now to an Adder and a similar ship that don't even attack you.

I' m not really sure why I was destroyed in the past - it was in Deciat after a visit to Felicity. I think maybe I was accidentally loitering too long in the station trying to find the landing pad that was behind the ship. I was in my exploration ship with no docking computer at the time.
I landed in a hostile station OK today.

 

[Araviel]

I' m not really sure why I was destroyed in the past - it was in Deciat after a visit to Felicity. I think maybe I was accidentally loitering too long in the station trying to find the landing pad that was behind the ship. I was in my exploration ship with no docking computer at the time.
I landed in a hostile station OK today.

A station that is hostile due to standing will open fire right away and not even allow you to get through the airlock, so it sounds like you were either destroyed for loitering or trespassing by forgetting to ask for docking permission.

and it is like they said above - stations never go hostile because of powerplay alone, and to explain it a bit simpler for anyone else that is new that might be reading this:

The hostile indication only apply to powerplay npc's and players belonging to the hostile powerplay faction, for anyone else it is still a crime to engage you.
For example if you fly for Li Yong-Rui and you are in a Hudson control system Only Hudson players and Npc's are allowed to attack you, no one else unless you are also wanted.
hence the risk is very low as the chances of running into a player that belongs to the only faction that can attack you is minimal if you are just out flying about and are not engaging in undermining activities that might draw the attention.

 

[d8veh]

I' m not really sure why I was destroyed in the past - it was in Deciat after a visit to Felicity. I think maybe I was accidentally loitering too long in the station trying to find the landing pad that was behind the ship. I was in my exploration ship with no docking computer at the time.
I landed in a hostile station OK today.

There's a fairly common way that the station can blow up a player unexpectedly, especially an inexperienced player. The player might have a bounty on them for some minor offence - typically tagging a non-wanted ship in combat, or the player might have accidentally picked up some illicit cargo while material farming or scavenging, or the player might have an illegal passenger that wasn't obvious when they picked him/her up. In the case of the bounty, you get the "wanted" warning by the fuel guage, while as the others give you the "illicit cargo/passenger" warning. It's surprising how many players don't even notice those warnings as you only see what you're looking for.

On the way into the station, you ask for docking permision and get a landing pad, but then the police circulating the entrance scan you and find the offence that you've commited, whereupon, your docking permision is revoked, but you're concentarting on lining up for the slot or avoiding some NPC coming out, so you don't notice what happened and you carry on into the station with no docking permision. By the time you find out your error, it's too late.