How to use the galaxy map in VR?

Hey folks,

I'm loving using the Rift and it is AMAZING for flying/fighting etc but I find navigating the galaxy/system map a pain in the ass. Does anyone have any tricks to using this (as the map seems mouse bound, and looking at a point never picks it up!)
 
Hey folks,

I'm loving using the Rift and it is AMAZING for flying/fighting etc but I find navigating the galaxy/system map a pain in the ass. Does anyone have any tricks to using this (as the map seems mouse bound, and looking at a point never picks it up!)

Endure. That's what I do. If you can, know the name of a system you want to look at and type it in the search. Also get used to using the controls for moving around the arrow pointer that is on the grid; you can move it in all axes independently. All the systems will have a line that joins to the grid plane; if you centre the arrow pointer on that line it will select the system. It's not as fast as using a mouse to point to the system but its the best alternative in VR as the looking at really doesn't work.
 
Hey folks,

I'm loving using the Rift and it is AMAZING for flying/fighting etc but I find navigating the galaxy/system map a pain in the ass. Does anyone have any tricks to using this (as the map seems mouse bound, and looking at a point never picks it up!)

I've found it easier to navigate than ever, primarily because the display is huge. Fighterstick controls pitch and yaw, mini joystick on the throttle controls translation on the XY axis, with my "shift" button allowing translation on the Z axis with the mini joystick.

Do wish the map wouldn't start edge on, though.
 
I wonder if anyone had seen this issue; I'm using the TM Warthog HOTAS with Vive and as soon as I use the TARGET software my keyboard is typing backwards during Galaxy Map searches. The characters appear in reverse order as if in a mirror. So pretty much I'm stuck in my current quadrant as I can't search for target systems unless I they are directly visible nearby.

Also, running Windows 10 Pro and Voice Attack. I've searched everywhere on the TM support site to no avail. This behavior is only present in the system when the TARGET virtual drivers are loaded with the .CFG mapping; I have the correct Windows keyboard locale mapped in the system.

Apologize for posting this question here since it isn't specifically Vive-related, but it does occur also when I run ED VR or the regular 2D version displayed on my monitor.
 
Hey folks,

I'm loving using the Rift and it is AMAZING for flying/fighting etc but I find navigating the galaxy/system map a pain in the ass. Does anyone have any tricks to using this (as the map seems mouse bound, and looking at a point never picks it up!)

Check out this thread - plenty of explanations and videos on the matter. It's a merged thread with lots of very old posts from beta in the beginning, so here's the last explanation video I've found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jG1w_YkDY&feature=youtu.be


I wonder if anyone had seen this issue; I'm using the TM Warthog HOTAS with Vive and as soon as I use the TARGET software my keyboard is typing backwards during Galaxy Map searches. The characters appear in reverse order as if in a mirror. So pretty much I'm stuck in my current quadrant as I can't search for target systems unless I they are directly visible nearby.

Also, running Windows 10 Pro and Voice Attack. I've searched everywhere on the TM support site to no avail. This behavior is only present in the system when the TARGET virtual drivers are loaded with the .CFG mapping; I have the correct Windows keyboard locale mapped in the system.

Apologize for posting this question here since it isn't specifically Vive-related, but it does occur also when I run ED VR or the regular 2D version displayed on my monitor.

Using the Warthog and Target without any issue in the galaxy map - sounds like you have some hold command involving the insert key mapped to one of the switches. Did you try flipping them and check if the problem persists?
 
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Check out this thread - plenty of explanations and videos on the matter. It's a merged thread with lots of very old posts from beta in the beginning, so here's the last explanation video I've found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jG1w_YkDY&feature=youtu.be




Using the Warthog and Target without any issue in the galaxy map - sounds like you have some hold command involving the insert key mapped to one of the switches. Did you try flipping them and check if the problem persists?

That could very well be, I'll check it out now. Thank you so much!!!
 
Since it' possible to bind different devices inside the game, i always use a game pad for all the station menus and galaxy map operations, it's actually very intuitive.

When i'm done i leave my gamepad on the table and go back to my hotas, an X-55, that way i don't use too much the hats, they seem to get loosen pretty fast.

Have been testing a DK2 recently and do the same thing and still i find it very usefull.
 
Since it' possible to bind different devices inside the game, i always use a game pad for all the station menus and galaxy map operations, it's actually very intuitive.

When i'm done i leave my gamepad on the table and go back to my hotas, an X-55, that way i don't use too much the hats, they seem to get loosen pretty fast.

Have been testing a DK2 recently and do the same thing and still i find it very usefull.
this is propper !!

an un useable peice of !!!!
desigend from the ground up with vr in mind?

wot the where the s that desigend the map doing?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
This must be about the 30th thread about this topic (didn't really count).

Allow me to copy & paste my usual reply:

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Check the video in that post by Malic about how to work with the galaxy map in VR with HOTAS:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/59809-Tips-Suggestions-Galaxy-Map-with-OR/page13?p=2394144&viewfull=1#post2394144

It's quite old but still valid.

And to repeat the often mentioned rule no. 1 for using the Galaxy Map in VR: DON'T USE THE MOUSE! AT ALL! It's useless for selecting stuff in a 3D environment! Move the mouse cursor out of sight and use your Joystick / HOTAS with the circular marker to select things as shown in the linked video.
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Believe me, the Galaxy Map is great in VR once you understand how to use it. Unless you insist on using the mouse. Nothing in VR is great with a mouse. ;)
 
Believe me, the Galaxy Map is great in VR once you understand how to use it. Unless you insist on using the mouse. Nothing in VR is great with a mouse. ;)

Yep, like an above poster I find it easier in VR than in regular 2D.
 
I don't find it appropriate to not use the mouse at all, - for selecting various map filter options and macro-level browsing around, the mouse + keyboard still works the best for me.

Just don't use it to select systems, you need to use your flight devices for that. I just get pretty close to the system I want with the mouse, then finish the job and make the course selections with the buttons and axes on the hotas.
 
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Galaxy map, set up one of your throttle dial wheels to move up and down vertically on the plane. And the index finger hat to scoot around forward back left right. Stick for pitch and turn. Works great for me at least.
 
Endure. That's what I do. If you can, know the name of a system you want to look at and type it in the search. Also get used to using the controls for moving around the arrow pointer that is on the grid; you can move it in all axes independently. All the systems will have a line that joins to the grid plane; if you centre the arrow pointer on that line it will select the system. It's not as fast as using a mouse to point to the system but its the best alternative in VR as the looking at really doesn't work.
Yes,that's what I do, too
I've found it easier to navigate than ever, primarily because the display is huge. Fighterstick controls pitch and yaw, mini joystick on the throttle controls translation on the XY axis, with my "shift" button allowing translation on the Z axis with the mini joystick.

Do wish the map wouldn't start edge on, though.
Wait, how do you select a target system? Navigating the map in VR is a charm, it's way better than on a monitor. A million times better.
But I can't select any star.
 
Exactly as Darkfyre99 says. Use a hat control to slide around the XY plane and you can select any star easily. In my map view there's a legend in the lower part of the screen which tells me the keys.
 
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