So I have just under 1000 hours in game and 2 out of 3 of my ranks are at elite. Needles to say I've been around the sun a few times. But the big problem I have is with manufactured materials and how we as commanders acquire them. I think they should be SOLD from certain stations that produce that certain material. After all they are a manufactured item which means somewhere someone has to build it, so why cant I just go buy them? Since we need 3 types of "material" to engineer our parts why not have 1 of those cost credits. Farming data signals at the Jameson crash and raw mats from the crystal shard locations make us do some farming regardless but why the hell cant I just buy a manufactured item?
How we get manufactured materials seems wrong to me and should be updated.
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Because credits are meaningless.
I like the idea tbh. and it would be a credit sink that we might need.
And as stated - credits are sorta meaningless..
But would it be a bad thing if manufactured mats became less significant in terms of "time to be gathered"?
I'd gladly pay credits for manufactured items. As long as one imperial shielding doesnt cost as much as a cutter
And as stated - credits are sorta meaningless..
But would it be a bad thing if manufactured mats became less significant in terms of "time to be gathered"?
I'd gladly pay credits for manufactured items. As long as one imperial shielding doesnt cost as much as a cutter
Because you want X-universe economy and this is Elite Grinderous economy.
Can't the same argument be made for raw and encoded materials?
- shouldn't we be able to purchase metals and minerals at refineries?
- shouldn't we be able to purchase encoded stuff from a tech facility?
But then engineering = credits = mining. The game could be renamed Elite Mining. Futuristic mining space sim. A noob can now fully purchase and engineer a +500Mcr A-rated ship by watching only a single you-tube video and complain about the huge mining grind required to get stuff and how boring the game is.
Because the manufacturers of those parts only produce at the level required to repair the ships etc that they are used in.
To maintain their dominance of the spares and repairs market they don't make the parts, to which they hold the IP, freely available on the open market.
Very similar to how things were done in ancient Sol in the 21st centre by car manufacturers.
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That wouldnt be as fun. I think that salvage operations needs a overhaul just like mining got an overhaul though. That would make up for it. Imagine slicing a derilict ship in half and having limpets yank out the good parts.
Per game lore maybe. The game play it is all about the experience of gathering the materials and becoming a better pilot. The same with engineers trying out different play styles in the game say a combat only player would never do. How can a player hate it without at least trying it was probably Frontier's goal. The good news is that the manufactured materials are the easiest ones to obtain. I easily max them out all the time. Raw takes a little longer flying to planets and encoded are a real pain to max them out.
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and scooping HGEs with zero risk or engagement is super meaningful. Right, got it.
So many MMO's have better-grinding systems.
They could make this like a HGE hunt that give tokens as opposed to specific materials each GHE gives like 20 and you can keep say 600 then trade on a 1-1 ratio for the G5 you need.
Then they stop that close and reopen the game and make so that all you have to do is Jump in scan the beacon get to 1000LY of the GHE and use a scanner or something.
Once the HGE is scanned it vanishes and respawns in a different system controlled by the same superpower /independent.
Takes the pain of finding specific materials away which is the freaking worse they could ever pull out of their drunken heads.
Sorry for the vent, I'm so ed I came back and wanted to unlock the engineers maybe even customise my ship. But there is NO WAY they will get another cent of my money. I been grinding for days and can't seem to get all the Manufactured/Data materials I need to unlock and level the engineers.
While I am at it, I want my 100 Pounds I paid for beta back so I can delete the game and never come back.
They could make this like a HGE hunt that give tokens as opposed to specific materials each GHE gives like 20 and you can keep say 600 then trade on a 1-1 ratio for the G5 you need.
Then they stop that close and reopen the game and make so that all you have to do is Jump in scan the beacon get to 1000LY of the GHE and use a scanner or something.
Once the HGE is scanned it vanishes and respawns in a different system controlled by the same superpower /independent.
Takes the pain of finding specific materials away which is the freaking worse they could ever pull out of their drunken heads.
Sorry for the vent, I'm so ed I came back and wanted to unlock the engineers maybe even customise my ship. But there is NO WAY they will get another cent of my money. I been grinding for days and can't seem to get all the Manufactured/Data materials I need to unlock and level the engineers.
While I am at it, I want my 100 Pounds I paid for beta back so I can delete the game and never come back.
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So much salt!!!
Jeez. Encoded farm at shinartra with a wake scanner for a few hours. Boring but it works. Engineered wake scanner can have a long range so you don't even have to move. Do it in open at jameson memorial and be entertained by PvP shenanigans.
Encoded drop in combat whilst scanning enemy ships.
Manufactured again in combat.
Goto a system in war. Jump into a combat zone .. kill scoop mats.
Hges last resort. But a few courses zigzagging the bubble will drop lots of these.
Trip to crystal forest in a fleet carrier takes care of raw.
No big deal
Jeez. Encoded farm at shinartra with a wake scanner for a few hours. Boring but it works. Engineered wake scanner can have a long range so you don't even have to move. Do it in open at jameson memorial and be entertained by PvP shenanigans.
Encoded drop in combat whilst scanning enemy ships.
Manufactured again in combat.
Goto a system in war. Jump into a combat zone .. kill scoop mats.
Hges last resort. But a few courses zigzagging the bubble will drop lots of these.
Trip to crystal forest in a fleet carrier takes care of raw.
No big deal
Looks like you're conflating complaints about asinine progression mechanics with people not knowing how to collect materials. Thanks though.
Nope.
Credits are easy to get.
Engineering and materials is where the real progress (along with ranking but to a lesser extent) is and what makes people stick/care with their characters.
Also, Manufactured are easy to get if you know what you're doing. Raws are even easier.
Encoded on the other side could really get some interesting means of getting them instead of the relog galore that happens at Jamesons, Isinor, Plucker Relay, Dav's hope, Bug Anaconda or some other planetary POI's
Oh yes, a great way to get manufactured mats, DROP out FSD, deploy collector limpets, close the game and open again, do this for 20 minutes you get 100 then trade for 16 of the mats you need then prey you find the HGE you really need to waste more time closing the game all the time. Same for data but on that, you quit to the main menu. I don't know about you but I have better things to do than this crap. Wasted money I guess I got to live with that. Maybe they will come up with an engaging grind system when they are born again.... or get new brains.... or stop smoking pot and laughing at everything.
Your posted thoughts clearly indicate that you prefer spending hours blindly grinding rather than playing a game. Following the easiest method regardless of the time and mind numbing aspect of the activity. I find that on this forum the cmdrs that complain alot about grinding are those that focus on grinding.
Personally I find it more fun to just play the game and have the mats fall in my lap. Relogging and performing mindless repetitive tasks for hours to get the things I want doesn't sound like fun.
True, but on the other hand encoded are required in much smaller quantities - lots of blueprints with multiple high-level manufactured, very few need more than one data, very very few have a data material in the G5 slot, and the only one required in vast quantities (MEF) is available as a mission reward, with half the ones below G5 available in "more than you'll ever need" quantities for most players just by remembering to hit the "cycle next target" key a few times a minute in supercruise.
The G3/G4 capacitors are the ones I find most annoying - used on quite a few useful blueprints, only available in large quantities from CZs which are not convenient places to collect materials, very occasionally available as a mission reward but the G5 equivalent isn't.
I was only grinding for a shopping list to unlock all engineers without having to stop and farm again. SO I could enjoy some progression.
I gave up already and will probably just stick with X4, Eve Online or some other game I'm done wasting my limited time closing/relaunching/re-logging the game.
Like when the last time I will come back in 5 years to see if FDEV turned the game into something worth playing.
I paid 100 pounds for this piece of after all so I hope not to have to buy an expansion later.
I gave up already and will probably just stick with X4, Eve Online or some other game I'm done wasting my limited time closing/relaunching/re-logging the game.
Like when the last time I will come back in 5 years to see if FDEV turned the game into something worth playing.
I paid 100 pounds for this piece of after all so I hope not to have to buy an expansion later.
Are you ranked to elite? Which of the elite ranks have you obtained? From your posts it doesn't sound like you have played this game very much. Your knowledge seems very superficial. Sketchy at best. You should try to know what you are talking about.
You certainly can not obtain any of the three elite ranks from what you described.