How would we know?

KillaWabbit · Jan 31, 2015

FD is now letting the first CMDR to discover a new star to have the discovery named after him/her. How do you know if a star is not previously discovered? I have run into so many that are "unknown". I have not focused on exploration. I find it pretty boring. But I wouldn't mind having a star that I discovered lol. Correction... my name as the discoverer.

Kayweg · Jan 31, 2015

KillaWabbit said:
FD is now letting the first CMDR to discover a new star to have the discovery named after him/her. How do you know if a star is not previously discovered? I have run into so many that are "unknown". I have not focused on exploration. I find it pretty boring. But I wouldn't mind having a star that I discovered lol. Correction... my name as the discoverer.

That's not quite how i understand it.
The star or system is not going to be named after the Commander who first discovered it, it will retain it's name as shown in the galaxy map.
The name of the Commander will feature as an entry in the system information panel.

Agony_Aunt · Jan 31, 2015

Yup, your premise is wrong OP. It will just list who discovered the system, not name the system after the commander. If they allowed that, there would be hell to pay with the outcry from alpha backers who got that as a perk already.

ronin516 · Jan 31, 2015

Kayweg said:
That's not quite how i understand it.
The star or system is not going to be named after the Commander who first discovered it, it will retain it's name as shown in the galaxy map.
The name of the Commander will feature as an entry in the system information panel.

Think that's what he is trying to say. He will get recognized as the discoverer. I'm curious on this as well. I see tons of unknowns and stuff. How would we know if we were the first to visit that system?

Skybird · Jan 31, 2015

ronin516 said:
Think that's what he is trying to say. He will get recognized as the discoverer. I'm curious on this as well. I see tons of unknowns and stuff. How would we know if we were the first to visit that system?

It's an interesting programming challenge. With instances all over the world, in different time zones, it's possible FD might not know instantly, but only on a server refresh / poll. Otherwise it would be great to have a banner or badge come up "First Contact" or something on the HUD.

KillaWabbit · Jan 31, 2015

Loki_666 said:
Yup, your premise is wrong OP. It will just list who discovered the system, not name the system after the commander. If they allowed that, there would be hell to pay with the outcry from alpha backers who got that as a perk already.

I have miss-typed that whole question I guess. I know that it is not named after you. It will just be listed in the info panel that you discovered it. But the question is still valid. How will we know if we are the first one there?

Bardster · Jan 31, 2015

According to the devs it will tell you when you sell your data

Derpster Frey · Jan 31, 2015

Bardster said:
According to the devs it will tell you when you sell your data

It will get recorded when you sell it.
So discovering it isn't enough, you've got the sell the data before it's recorded.

Secondly, it will show in the information tab of the system.
Where you've got star type, allegiance, economy etc now.

Patrick_68000 · Jan 31, 2015

Kayweg said:
That's not quite how i understand it.
The star or system is not going to be named after the Commander who first discovered it, it will retain it's name as shown in the galaxy map.
The name of the Commander will feature as an entry in the system information panel.

Yes it is exactly as I have read it

cDave · Jan 31, 2015

When you're docked, the galaxy map will show you
a) a filter option to only show systems where the cartographic shop cannot sell you anything, and
b) if you select the system , if you cannot view the system map.

If both those are true, then it would appear that no-one has scanned the system yet.

But just because someone has scanned the system, doesn't mean they used the advanced scanner, or have detailed scans of all the planets yet, so may still be worth a flyby.

Llewelyn · Jan 31, 2015

But since it's going to be back dated (so they obviously already have the stats) - how do we find out if we were the first for a system we've already been through.

Kayweg · Jan 31, 2015

KillaWabbit said:
I have miss-typed that whole question I guess. I know that it is not named after you. It will just be listed in the info panel that you discovered it. But the question is still valid. How will we know if we are the first one there?

Don't worry about the phrasing, i think we're on track now.

If you are the first to visit a system, your name should immediately be visible in the information panel, possibly at the bottom under "discovered by".

If someone else discovered it before you, then that commanders name should be there.

So checking the system panel would be your way of knowing, at least this seems to be the most intuitive mechanic to me.

Question is, will the credit be awarded only for discovering the system as a whole, or will it also be awarded for individual celestial bodies (possibly after a detailed surface scan) ?

Derpster Frey · Jan 31, 2015

Llewelyn said:
But since it's going to be back dated (so they obviously already have the stats) - how do we find out if we were the first for a system we've already been through.

You can't, not until the new system is implemented.
And are you sure it's going to be back dated?

I must have missed that.

erbal · Jan 31, 2015

What counts as 'discovery' though ... if you just fly through, honk your advanced d-scanner and go on your way, have you discovered them even if they remain 'unexplored', will there be a separate 'explored by' and 'detail scanned by'?

ollobrains · Jan 31, 2015

yeah youll get a tab that says u discovered it, so now might be a good time to get roaming around exploring systems. But the core worlds and immediate output areas might be taken but i think 2000LY onwards theres a good chance youll find yaself a new you first.

Erimus Kamzel · Jan 31, 2015

From what I understand its only the first person who sells the data that gets the discovered by tag.

You could be the first person to visit system x, but if someone visits it after you and sells their data first, they are credited with the discovered by tag.

AnnuverScotinExile · Jan 31, 2015

cDave said:
When you're docked, the galaxy map will show you
a) a filter option to only show systems where the cartographic shop cannot sell you anything, and
b) if you select the system , if you cannot view the system map.

If both those are true, then it would appear that no-one has scanned the system yet.

But just because someone has scanned the system, doesn't mean they used the advanced scanner, or have detailed scans of all the planets yet, so may still be worth a flyby.

Not so. There is not currently a mechanism for a system to change from unexplored to explored. All you know in advance is that it started out as unexplored.

OnePercent · Jan 31, 2015

First off the devs will implement already all those systems discovered by CMDRS since gamma.

Zplintz · Jan 31, 2015

If the system isn't already listed as being discovered by someone then you would be the first surely?

It may be coupled with having to report your discovery to a faction before you can claim it though?

AnnuverScotinExile · Jan 31, 2015

Zplintz said:
If the system isn't already listed as being discovered by someone then you would be the first surely?

It may be coupled with having to report your discovery to a faction before you can claim it though?

For this purpose 'discovered' means discovered AND reported. If someone finds it after you, but reports it before you do, they get the prize.