Powerplay hudson HQ in danger?

[Bunkerkind Anni]

Hi,
i haven't really participated in powerplay aside from keeping my lvl2 rank with Arissa for higher bounty payout - but now that i am back in federation space i have noticed that Mahon's followers have almost enclosed Hudsons HQ system.

What will actually happen if the current progress continues?

 

[Apos]

Spoiler

Nothing, we can't expand further down.

 

[Crimson Kaim]

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Spoiler

Nothing, we can't expand further down.

Empire Earth cheat number 1 lol.

However, nothing much will happen. Theoretically any power could contest our systems (I am pledged to Hudson) but for hwat use? It would be a loss making system as it is too far away from another HQ than NANOMAM.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

It's what happens when you make a deal with the devil and greed makes players continually make the wrong choices, rather than secure your boundaries.
Basically, the path of least resistance was chosen, only to be found it couldn't be supported because of the distance, while no efforts where made to expand the other way.
You only need to look at where Nanomam is on the PP map to see he's failed to expand in certain directions allowing other powers to get very close to Federation interests.

 

[CMDR John Casey]

Nothing. We are quite friends with Mahon and he will not expand further in our space (it's not rentable).

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It's what happens when you make a deal with the devil and greed makes players continually make the wrong choices, rather than secure your boundaries.
Basically, the path of least resistance was chosen, only to be found it couldn't be supported because of the distance, while no efforts where made to expand the other way.
You only need to look at where Nanomam is on the PP map to see he's failed to expand in certain directions allowing other powers to get very close to Federation interests.

We made the choice to fight on one side at a time. We considered the Empire a bigger threat than the Alliance. Time will say.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

Nothing. We are quite friends with Mahon and he will not expand further in our space (it's not rentable).

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We made the choice to fight on one side at a time. We considered the Empire a bigger threat than the Alliance. Time will say.

I get that.
Even so, we should try and balance our expansions. Both Sirius and the Alliance are getting very close to core primary systems.
Because sooner or later, there will be no more uncontested systems.

 

[Apos]

I get that.
Even so, we should try and balance our expansions. Both Sirius and the Alliance are getting very close to core primary systems.
Because sooner or later, there will be no more uncontested systems.

I didn't know bananas had so aggressive, over-expanding tendencies. You'd expect they'd want to stay cozy and tight where it's warm instead of looking towards the cold north.

 

[Bunkerkind Anni]

who are we?

without reading the forums i never got the feeling belonging to a certain group.

that certain powers expand faster or more effective then others is IMHO only affected how "beneficial" the benefits are, or how they allign with player interests.
eg. Hudson offers only small benefits for a casual legal-combat-only pilot. whenever hudson falls into negative CC, i got at least a full cycle where its impossible for me to gain enough merrits - because DEFENDING doesn't reward points.

Fortification is nothing for me as a combat-dropship pilot without at least two long-range-jump ships on standby (one at HQ, one at my current living-space)

 

[Martin Schou]

Fortification is nothing for me as a combat-dropship pilot without at least two long-range-jump ships on standby (one at HQ, one at my current living-space)

Oh, noes. At least when you combat pilots hit rank 5, you've not spent the last few hours of the cycle, fast tracking merits like crazy and almost spending your entire 50 million credit salary on keeping your power afloat. But sure, woe be upon you.

 

[lefty1117]

This all goes back to a theory that Hudson was set up to fail. Even on the original PP map, Nanomam was near intersecting borders, within close reach of several other powers - the government type and controlling factions were wrong, etc. Hudson was in a difficult spot from the start with no inherent advantages in terms of PP (which is kind of opposite to the in-game lore, where as president he commands amazing resources). If there were difficulty levels assigned to each of the powers, Hudson would certainly be Hard. Frankly I think what they've been able to do with their numbers and position on the map has been worthy of respect.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

I didn't know bananas had so aggressive, over-expanding tendencies. You'd expect they'd want to stay cozy and tight where it's warm instead of looking towards the cold north.

I'm not being aggressive, I'm trying to insure our borders are protected from incursions from other powers.
If you look at the PP map, put it on Hudson, and you'll see that the capitol (Nanomam) is very far from the centre of things.
Most expansions have all been away from those we have "neutral" status but that has allowed them to encroach a wee bit too close.
If you've ever played chess then you'll understand the benefit of having your pieces in the right place.
So, OP's point is valid and should be of concern to the Federal High Command.

Actions I would suggest would not involve breaking any treaty, more a re-focusing to closer systems while the opportunity is there.

 

[Bunkerkind Anni]

Oh, noes. At least when you combat pilots hit rank 5, you've not spent the last few hours of the cycle, fast tracking merits like crazy and almost spending your entire 50 million credit salary on keeping your power afloat. But sure, woe be upon you.

hmm, the highest rank i managed to keep with casual play, was rank3 with the future emperor.
i got 500k Cr. at the end of a cycle, but had to fast-track 350 Merits for 3.5 MILLION credits, (thats -3.000.000 Cr. )

my goal is to transport them to somwhere where they are still necessary at the and of the cylce, aka a system that is not yet fortified. Usually those are around 10 Jumps away for my dropship, making this "last-minutes-fast tracking alternatives" something exhausting...

aka - for me, powerplay is missing defense merit rewards.

 

[goemon]

So, OP's point is valid and should be of concern to the Federal High Command.

you are mixing things up. a) hudson space is as much federal space as winters space b) even mahon, sirius, li yong rui, archon and some imperial powers control federal space

--- so federal command has nothing to do with this. which power exploits federal space where is not a concern of the federal high command.

now, if systems are freed to independance, or choose to join the alliance of independance systems, federal high command may be concerned about the profits of federal corporations and step in.

 

[Banana's_Are_Good_For_You]

Urgh...
Would space controlled and exploited by Hudson sound better? As in within his sphere of influence? I am aware of contested systems.

The thing is with the Federation is that we have each others backs, something that the Empire can't say because they're all trying to knife each other in the tender bits as far as I can gather.
Since one of the main Hudson guys involved in such things posted in this thread, I was just bringing their attention to it.
That is all.

 

[goemon]

Urgh...
Would space controlled and exploited by Hudson sound better? As in within his sphere of influence? I

that wouldn't sound better, but at least it'd be correct

it's like those mahon supporters, who claim to be alliance, while knowing mahon is just president of the alliance for one year. i'm wondering what the council of admirals thinks about that...

 

[Carradin]

it's like those mahon supporters, who claim to be alliance, while knowing mahon is just president of the alliance for one year

Is there any reason we can't be both? I considered myself an Alliance pilot long before I got into powerplay, and I pledged to Mahon because he was the Alliance-aligned power, not the other way around. It certainly wasn't because I could get a (at the time) 5% bonus on trade profits and a laser that, if used in banks of four or more, is almost capable of heating a cup of water to a boil.

 

[goemon]

Is there any reason we can't be both?

of course it you can be both! (but you don't need to be!) i was just referring to "hudsons powerplay standing should concern the federal high command", which is as wrong as "mahons powerplay standing should concern the alliance council of admirals". mahon exploits federal systems, too - there is need for him to help more worlds getting independent and joining the alliance of independent worlds.

 

[Schlack]

a laser that, if used in banks of four or more, is almost capable of heating a cup of water to a boil.

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