Powerplay Faction: Zachary Hudson Hudson needs your support. Prepare Ruchbah
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From a PowerPlay view Ruchbah is a terrible system unfortunately. Looking at its base income and cost it would only generate 3 CC. Since we also have to pay ~ 62 CC overheads per system, it would give us a loss of 59 CC per cycle if we had it. We only have one system that's worse. So please don't prep that system, we have plenty other systems with RES & High Tech combination in our bubble already. Since the organized Hudson player base wants two different systems you'd just be wasting your money too.
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Please don't. The number of res sites, high tech outfitting, it's charity mission spawning nature or it's physical beauty all have no effect on a systems's value to our power as a CONTROL SYSTEM.
Even the CC shown in the GALAXY MAP is inaccurate in regard to the value a system is to our power as there is a ~-62CC deficit that is not shown on the map.
This cycle Hudson is preparing two weaponized expansions - Carpaka and LPM 229 as part of OPERATION BLACK FRIDAY - we could use your help CMDR.
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This is a fair point with regards to power play, I suppose. I just wanted to be able to hunt there and get my bonus bounty from hudson. Go visit it and tell me you don't want to control that place. It's sexy.
Has a good shipyard too. Lol. Station 0.17ls away from the hazard res around the beautiful mettalic world with rings.
Has a good shipyard too. Lol. Station 0.17ls away from the hazard res around the beautiful mettalic world with rings.
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Well the ingame number is not the whole story (sadly). We have to pay 62 CC overhead costs for each control system, that number is not included in the "profit" you see when looking at systems in the galaxy map.
Real CC protit = base income - upkeep costs - overheads
So in the case of Ruchbah:
Real CC profit = 30 - 27 - 62 = -59
Real CC protit = base income - upkeep costs - overheads
So in the case of Ruchbah:
Real CC profit = 30 - 27 - 62 = -59
I think AO would make a reasonably good system. It is independent and spawns decent cargo run's.
Well from a PowerPlay point of view that's also a very bad system. As a control system it would give us a CC profit of -68 per cycle, that's just a huge loss. The system is sitting in a sort of unprofitable no man's land between three powers, so I doubt it will be added to any power bubble soon.
If it's a good system for trading adding it to Hudson will actually not be a good thing for that really. We have no bonuses whatsoever for trading and there would be PowerPlay NPCs in the system eager to interdict you as soon as you show up.
Exactly what Shepron said, it has a terrible true value of -59CC and spawning cargo runs have no benefit to a Control system.
If we're only concerned about the profit of a system why are we not fortifying Phra Mool or Li Jungu? They both show a profit.
I also stated in a new thread about Kaushpoos also being a profit system and useful for commanders who wish to redeem Alliance vouchers at the increased hudson rates but this system is also being ignored. Why?!
I also stated in a new thread about Kaushpoos also being a profit system and useful for commanders who wish to redeem Alliance vouchers at the increased hudson rates but this system is also being ignored. Why?!
Well we already have plenty of systems with Imperial & Alliance minor factions so we don't need to expand into bad income systems to increase our bounty hunting income. Just if you don't know that already, you can hand in Empire/Alliance bounties at any system that has a respective minor faction in it, that faction does not have to be in charge of the system or even the station.
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If you are interested in how we organise our fortification efforts, take a look at the weekly strategy sticky. There you will also find a list that gives you the real profit for each system. We work down that list from the top (priorities are mix of profitabilty & distance mostly). Li Jungu and Phra Mool are below some higher priority systems that we plan to fortify first.
Keep in mind that we adjust our fortification to the undermining we suffer each cycle. We don't want to end up with a huge CC surplus through over fortification at the end of a cycle, it would end in the preparation of bad systems (because of the rarity of good ones nowadays & internal opposition).
Kaushpoos is in fact a loss making system if you consider the overheads so we don't fortify that one. It's also not the only system to turn in Alliance bounty vouchers in our bubble. Just because a system is not fortified does not mean we will lose it next cycle btw. Very simply put we would have to enter Turmoil and stay there a while for that. Read that little guide if you are interested in that aspect.
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I don't understand what you're saying. After 15 hours of bounty hunting with a KWS, you have about 10 million of each Alliance and Empire bounties that can't be cashed in at your normal port. You can cash them in at any Alliance or Empire system, but you don't get the 100% bonus, which will cost you 20 mllion. Do you know somewhere within say 60ly of Aphra where you can get the bonus? Presently, I go to Liaedin and Parjanya.
I'm not familiar with that region I somewhat doubt you'll find an Empire minor faction that's closer than Liaedin. What I wanted to say is that you could also hand in your Alliance vouchers at a Hudson system like LHS 3749, which has an Alliance minor faction (that's not even in control of the system or any station in it). I think that system is actually farther away than your current Alliance cash in system though.
So there are really some alternatives when it comes to cashing in Alliance/Empire bounds with our bonus, no need to hurt our CC economy to add more imo.
I don't get how you can say it's a loss making system when it clearly says the system runs at a profit of 6-1 vs upkeep? What am I missing here? And where can I find the means to assess the true value properly or have I not bothered to observe the obvious?
I just don't get why the game would show a profit of over 100cc if you say it's making a loss.
I just don't get why the game would show a profit of over 100cc if you say it's making a loss.
Sorry I can't follow you there, what system do you mean? Li Jungu and Phra Mool are profitable systems, Kaushpoos is a loss maker.
You can apply this formula to get the profit of each control system (you get base income and upkeep costs for each system in the "control" section of the ingame Hudson Powerplay section): Real CC protit = base income - upkeep costs - overheads (62CC)
Or just look at the lists in our weekly strategy guide to see the value for each system we have, less calculating
You can apply this formula to get the profit of each control system (you get base income and upkeep costs for each system in the "control" section of the ingame Hudson Powerplay section): Real CC protit = base income - upkeep costs - overheads (62CC)
Or just look at the lists in our weekly strategy guide to see the value for each system we have, less calculating
B/c Hudson leadership has been infiltrated by ALD 5C. Been bleeding obvious for months now.
/e duck
/e duck
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Respectfully, I don't think you know what you're talking about at all.