I don't always agree with FD but...

I don't always agree with Frontier. I don't always like FD's decisions. I'm not entirely happy with some things in the Alpha process... but

I think the boys and girls at Frontier deserve some sort of medal or knighthood or sainthood.

We complain (in our mature adult way) about nearly everything they do. (Maturely). Some of us are strong and opinionated and shout a lot (in a great mature way). We are a great community, but (particularly lately) there's a lot of tetchiness in the forums. And still they continue to interact with us. Not only the mods, but the design team, the executive producer of the game and other people from FD.

I love this community, even if I'm still locked in the toilet.
 
I do a fair bit of moaning myself, doesn't mean I dont appreciate FD and all of their awesome hard work. We are all passionate fans of the franchise / genre, and with passion comes a little bit of fire.

I can't believe I just used that corny line.
 
I wish First Beta was coming sooner and I would love more newsletters, but everything I have seen so far has been fantastic.

The last 15 months (is it really that long) have been a tremendous experience. None of this would have happened had DB and FD not started that KS and my interest would not have been sustained without their continued input. Helped of course by the core of positive contributors to the forums and ks.

I join the OP in thanking FD for what they have done and look forward to ED being the best game of all time.
 
I wish to register a complaint! It's not Monday yet and I'm not playing multiplayer atm!

But seriously, I'm amazed at the alpha, and without trying to bash Star Citizen, I still can't help but be amazed at what ED delivered so far compared to SC.

Roaming the galaxy in coop is my dream come true and seeing ED embrace Oculus Rift really sealed the deal and made me upgrade to Alpha, and I haven't regretted this one bit.

I'm sure I won't agree with some upcoming design choices. You can't please everyone, but this is shaping up to be an amazing game.
 
Not kidding my wife was this close to going away for the weekend to her mothers to leave me alone with multiplayer (we have to go down EARLY NEXT WEEK anyway) so she was gonna add a few days on and I'd join her on tuesday.

Fortunately she waited until we got confirmation or man there would have been hell to pay.
 
I don't always agree with Frontier. I don't always like FD's decisions. I'm not entirely happy with some things in the Alpha process... but

I think the boys and girls at Frontier deserve some sort of medal or knighthood or sainthood.

Can't agree more... They're not perfect... but they're not far off :D

+1!
 
Medals for everyone!
No, wait, then they wouldn't mean much, would they?
Medal for Ashley!
Ashley, just share it with everyone there? thanks
 
We all want more information, and the more they give the more we will ask for even more information. In simple words no matter how much information they provide it won't ever be enough as people will always have more questions to be answered.

I think we all appreciate the work they are doing but as said you can't please everyone. Some wanted a way to upgrade to alpha. It was provided. Some people complained that they never receive emails about announcements. So they sent out an email about the chance to upgrade and put it in the news letter. So what happens? The usual some complain it was sent via email and some that it was in the news letter also as if it is begging for money.

FD no matter what they do will please some, some will criticize what they do and others won't care or know it is just information and believe as I do, the more information the better. If it is redundant that is fine as it may not be redundant to others reading it.

Calebe
 

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
I expect this will disappear with Alpha 2.0 and then after a few weeks it will return as people get a bit bored with it and return to the forums to disagree over what will be in Alpha 3.0.

It may take more than a couple of weeks before the inception of whinge this time what with the Miners and Law Men scenario and the Free For All scenario.... With credits to be earned and ships to be upgraded, that should keep me going for some considerable time!
 
I looked at the thread title and I expected some of this:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world

You are right about the tetchiness. I expect this will disappear with Alpha 2.0 and then after a few weeks it will return as people get a bit bored with it and return to the forums to disagree over what will be in Alpha 3.0.

Well, we already know what will be in alpha 3.0 - traveling and trading. I guess it will be first time we will have persistent system to fly into.
 
It may take more than a couple of weeks before the inception of whinge this time what with the Miners and Law Men scenario and the Free For All scenario.... With credits to be earned and ships to be upgraded, that should keep me going for some considerable time!
My take on the credits thing was that they, and equipment, would not be persistent so it would be like Counterstrike, with everyone starting with the base setup, being reset after each new instance is joined or round is started.
 
I looked at the thread title and I expected some of this:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world

You are right about the tetchiness. I expect this will disappear with Alpha 2.0 and then after a few weeks it will return as people get a bit bored with it and return to the forums to disagree over what will be in Alpha 3.0.

Like this?
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I don't always rep, but when I do....it can't be you because I have to "spread it around a bit" first.

Here's a virtual +1 for you Sir! :smilie:
 
Frontier is a company composed of professionnel. And like all professionals, they do not have, to have of states of heart in the context of their work. And especially in front of their backers and future customers. The behavior of Frontier is completely normal and they are not to be congratulated on it. To be recognized by us as of great professionals, is doubtless enough for their happiness
 

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
My take on the credits thing was that they, and equipment, would not be persistent so it would be like Counterstrike, with everyone starting with the base setup, being reset after each new instance is joined or round is started.

That may be the case, however Frontier may be testing persistent character stats management at the same time....
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
For the most part this community is awesome, yes. There will always be complaints, some more well founded than others. However, the overall maturity displayed here is still impressive based on my experiences elsewhere.

And for me personally, FD have been awesome delivering what they've promised. Sure I count myself among those who want things faster, but overall I'm a really happy customer. :D
 
As much as I respect FD for the ability to make something out of nothing (and as member of the DDF I put my money where my mouth is), I don't agree that they should deserve any more or less respect than any other games developer out there. The reason that people moan, 7/10 is because of a lack of information to the contrary, or a lack of posts that us forum-junkies can point to and say "err, actually, no, FDev have said this....".

The lack of canon, and the lack of high frequency updating (like a simple daily tweet) puts distance between the most vocal of the community and development of the game. For better or for worse, online communities always develop a sentience, of self-policing. Fostering that is a tough balance, but it pays dividends of its own in the long run, especially when you rely on "ambassadors" in the community to go forward and spread the word of the game.

In dealing with this community FDev are doing their jobs, and doubtlessly the maturity of the community is something that makes it easier. But dealing with a community is not rocket science. PR isn't something that was invented just to ensure that Elite Dangerous fans don't go native. That we know that all parts of FDev frequent and read these forums is a blessing and a curse.

I for one would prefer they have the resource available to engage on a much higher frequency with the community on both ad-hoc and regular, reliable and planned communications. Not just on the forum, but via the wiki, Lave Radio, Blogs, streams on an "official" capacity, particularly now that MP is on its way.

FDev will rely massively on word of mouth to spread the popularity of E: D. And it will succeed. The number of players they have now will be a fraction of the number they have in the future. But they should be planning and acting now as if there are 2 million active accounts with their communications. They must continue to foster the best possible relationship with all of us here, but in a very coordinated and professional manner. I don't want to stop the ad-hoc nature of things entirely, it does help us early adopters, but to capitalise fully so that it reaps rewards in a year's time when the game is fully in the release, the communications outputs should feel much less strained than they do at the moment .

TLDNR: FDev already manage to cope with the community as it stands, it gives the impression of being close to breaking point, and yet they still do somethings very well, very well indeed, but they will need to step-up if they really mean to contend in the big-leagues.
 
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