I feel like everyone can farm NPC's to make ELITE. Why not make it so you can make to DEADLY rank by farming NPC's, but to make ELITE you have to make a set number of player bounties to EARN the rank of ELITE.
PvP I have a good idea for Combat Ranking!
- Thread starter Smittyventures
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Give players the CHOICE - they will rejoice.
Force/limit players - they will complain.
Yours is the latter.
Force/limit players - they will complain.
Yours is the latter.
Did you actually engage your brain before coming up with that Revelation?
If not, perhaps you should do so...
If you are still struggling, look up Mobius.
I'm combat rank Deadly, so in order to progress to Elite, I need to now kill CMDRs...
Ok. How many are we talking here? 10, 20? 200? 20,000?
I've only ever killed 1 other CMDR, and that was when I was in a wing defending Eravate. And I only got a couple of shots in. Lol
Besides, first thing that would happen...
Farming.
I'll hop on my freewinder, and let another CMDR murder me repeatedly until they rank up. Then I'll do the same to them.
It's still not a meaningful rank. Lol
For it to be meaningful, it needs to move both ways.
If you die in combat*, it drops, if you win, it goes up.
Done!
I'd still be rank Deadly, because I haven't died in PvE in years, except for being completely ridiculous. (I did a surface assault in a shieldless, weaponless DBX, and very quickly got shot down by the defences, because I parked right next to them...
)
*This is so you can canyon race and do other silly things without effecting your combat rank
CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
Ok. How many are we talking here? 10, 20? 200? 20,000?
I've only ever killed 1 other CMDR, and that was when I was in a wing defending Eravate. And I only got a couple of shots in. Lol
Besides, first thing that would happen...
Farming.
I'll hop on my freewinder, and let another CMDR murder me repeatedly until they rank up. Then I'll do the same to them.
It's still not a meaningful rank. Lol
For it to be meaningful, it needs to move both ways.
If you die in combat*, it drops, if you win, it goes up.
Done!
I'd still be rank Deadly, because I haven't died in PvE in years, except for being completely ridiculous. (I did a surface assault in a shieldless, weaponless DBX, and very quickly got shot down by the defences, because I parked right next to them...
)*This is so you can canyon race and do other silly things without effecting your combat rank
CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
I know this, but just something to think about.
I engage my brain everyday. That is why I am such a GREAT pilot. As for looking up Mobius, I know who they are, but this is not Mobius's game. This is Elite Dangerous. I gave an opinion and a pretty good idea. If you did not like that idea you could easily come in and say I don't think that is a good idea or good idea. There was no reason to talk down to me like I am beneath you.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
Banned
I agree. Anyone can just farm NPC's all day. People have AFK Conda's for Christ sake.
No real skill needed.
People should engage in PVP more. And if they dont want to thats optional.
Just like if I dont feel like exploring and getting explorer rank by scanning planets. Same thing. Everyone has a choice. Nothing wrong with requiring PVP as it is part of the game to be played. Just like exploring, trading and mining.
Those parts of the game have meaning to it. Player Bounties should count towards ranking too.
Great Idea OP.
No real skill needed.
People should engage in PVP more. And if they dont want to thats optional.
Just like if I dont feel like exploring and getting explorer rank by scanning planets. Same thing. Everyone has a choice. Nothing wrong with requiring PVP as it is part of the game to be played. Just like exploring, trading and mining.
Those parts of the game have meaning to it. Player Bounties should count towards ranking too.
Great Idea OP.
Because not everyone likes to shoot players.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
Banned
Not everyone wants to explore.
I'm combat rank Deadly, so in order to progress to Elite, I need to now kill CMDRs...
Ok. How many are we talking here? 10, 20? 200? 20,000?
I've only ever killed 1 other CMDR, and that was when I was in a wing defending Eravate. And I only got a couple of shots in. Lol
Besides, first thing that would happen...
Farming.
I'll hop on my freewinder, and let another CMDR murder me repeatedly until they rank up. Then I'll do the same to them.
It's still not a meaningful rank. Lol
For it to be meaningful, it needs to move both ways.
If you die in combat*, it drops, if you win, it goes up.
Done!
I'd still be rank Deadly, because I haven't died in PvE in years, except for being completely ridiculous. (I did a surface assault in a shieldless, weaponless DBX, and very quickly got shot down by the defences, because I parked right next to them...
*This is so you can canyon race and do other silly things without effecting your combat rank
CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
I opened this as a discussion or idea to get people talking. How big of a bounty should you have to bring to make ELITE. I mean this is the top rank you make that proves you are TRULY a good combat pilot. The Red Baron (IRL) is considered the Ace of Aces and shot down 80 pilots officially, so in my opinion you should have to have a challenge as hard as he had, but in game.
OK Ziggy that is fine then you earned Dangerous for combat. Elite should be held for people who are the best of the best. No one in any real military makes ace pilot in a simulator.
Solo, private aren't simulators.
Your idea is incompatible with the Elite universe.
As a rough estimate you need approximately 2,400 Deadly or above Kills to progress from Deadly to Elite...
Which brings to mind...two immediate points
1) Where on earth are you going to Find THAT many PVP Encounters...and how long will THAT take...
2) After a very very short period ((AKA "The Happy Time") EVERY SINGLE Trader/Explorer and many low-ranked/new starter PVE Combat Player will get heartily sick and tired of being hunted down repeatedly for Ranking purposes...and decamp instantly and permanently to Mobious and/or Solo...leaving Open a tumbleweed...
I DON'T disagree that NPCs are far too easy...but a better solution would be for Frontier to beef up the Enemy AI so Player vs AI was an actual challenge that you could (frequently) lose...
Well Ziggy, you could do it in private with your friends. As for your comment on simulators, NPC's are simulators.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
Banned
Lowers the guy that died combat ranking? I agree.
Is this some kind of performance-art parody? Or is it ignorance?
glad to discuss this
"I'm combat rank Deadly, so in order to progress to Elite, I need to now kill CMDRs...
"
Not kill CMDRs, rather collect bounties off of commanders. players have bounties for a reason!
"Ok. How many are we talking here? 10, 20? 200? 20,000?"
I don't know how much, what do you think would be fair? 10,000 credits in commander's bounties?
"I've only ever killed 1 other CMDR, and that was when I was in a wing defending Eravate. And I only got a couple of shots in. Lol"
Is that you opening bid as to what is fair?
"Besides, first thing that would happen...
Farming.
I'll hop on my freewinder, and let another CMDR murder me repeatedly until they rank up. Then I'll do the same to them.
It's still not a meaningful rank. Lol"
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If your boredom threshold is so high you could actually do that grind, the more power to you.
"I'd still be rank Deadly, because I haven't died in PvE in years, except for being completely ridiculous. (I did a surface assault in a shieldless, weaponless DBX, and very quickly got shot down by the defences, because I parked right next to them...:"
that perfectly correct. we agree on that point.
"I'm combat rank Deadly, so in order to progress to Elite, I need to now kill CMDRs...
"
Not kill CMDRs, rather collect bounties off of commanders. players have bounties for a reason!
"Ok. How many are we talking here? 10, 20? 200? 20,000?"
I don't know how much, what do you think would be fair? 10,000 credits in commander's bounties?
"I've only ever killed 1 other CMDR, and that was when I was in a wing defending Eravate. And I only got a couple of shots in. Lol"
Is that you opening bid as to what is fair?
"Besides, first thing that would happen...
Farming.
I'll hop on my freewinder, and let another CMDR murder me repeatedly until they rank up. Then I'll do the same to them.
It's still not a meaningful rank. Lol"
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If your boredom threshold is so high you could actually do that grind, the more power to you.
"I'd still be rank Deadly, because I haven't died in PvE in years, except for being completely ridiculous. (I did a surface assault in a shieldless, weaponless DBX, and very quickly got shot down by the defences, because I parked right next to them...:"
that perfectly correct. we agree on that point.
Again that is why I said you just don't get ELITE in that rank. You will have to wait and find wanted players or get your buddy to do it so you can farm it and get it the easy way. Some people want to earn ELITE and feel like it is actually a challenge.