Python with 350t starting hull mass and 3x class 6 slots can't have a fighter but a Keelback at 180t hull mass and uses same size landing pad can have a fighter is weird. I just found it curious, is there any logic beyond the concept of a Python + SLF friend being potentially OP and honestly there'd be no reason to use any other multi-role vessel?
I haven't played since SLF was a thing and call me crazy but
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Keelback ( https://eddp.co/u/UcFZvbz3 )max cargo capacity 88t and CAN carry fighter bay, so I'm not following you on this particular one......
I mean, I understand the meta logic to it because yeah there'd be no reason to fly anything else, but since almost everything in Elite is so stubbornly rooted in being as detailed and realistic as a space sim can be when it comes to tasks etc, it makes it hard to accept "because balance" as the why. Is it literally so thin that the bay is too tall for it? Ok fine with me, but when my friend and I go buy a Python and a Keelback and line them up next to each other and take a look from all angles, they better not be the same damn thickness. You follow me?
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Cheap SLF option to counter the complaining by people without bigger ships, trying the kelback inspired me to get enough money for an anaconda.
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Stop over complicating things.
The reason the Python doesn't have a fighter is because the developer never modelled a fighter bay door on the ship.
There's no lore for it, no underhanded reasons... The developer just never put the door on the ship. So, no fighter. Simple, and no tin foil needed.
The reason the Python doesn't have a fighter is because the developer never modelled a fighter bay door on the ship.
There's no lore for it, no underhanded reasons... The developer just never put the door on the ship. So, no fighter. Simple, and no tin foil needed.
Python was one of the first ships and was featured in the original Elite. It's a very old ship and SLFs weren't a thing so far ago. I believe it was designed without SLF being on the plan.
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I mean fair enough, but considering any time someone complains about the game being a grind the backlash is "Do the work or don't play". I'll leave the rest of my point unstated.
I'm really just bummed about it because tbh I hate big ships in combat, but I want to multi crew with a friend who is just starting out. Thing is I'm not gonna trust him with a combat conda's worth of rebuy (being new) and fly the SLF which I would prefer, and I have 0 interest in actually playing conda style combat, and lastly sharing guns is fun for a few minutes but we'd rather fully control a ship so SLF sounded ideal. Anyway, guess I'll dump him enough expensive cargo to buy a Viper
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I know I was harsh. But understand this is an incredibly dead horse.
I find it ridiculous when people spout out so much "lore" for the Python not having a hangar.
It's none of that. It's just simply that the developer didn't want the Python to have a hangar. Why? Probably to encourage ship diversity. Must work. I prefer the Keelback because it has a hangar.
I haven't verified this for myself but I've read that the Keelback is taller than the Python so, theoretically, that might explain why a hangar module won't fit inside the Python.
More realistically, it's probably done for the sake of balance.
The Python is already a pretty powerful ship.
Giving it the ability to haul ~150t of cargo, jump 30Ly, do okay in a fight, use medium pads and deploy a fighter would probably be a step too far.
More realistically, it's probably done for the sake of balance.
The Python is already a pretty powerful ship.
Giving it the ability to haul ~150t of cargo, jump 30Ly, do okay in a fight, use medium pads and deploy a fighter would probably be a step too far.
Yeah I get ya, I don't actually consider "lore" (to me lore is fluffy story bits) I considered physical claimed dimension and nothing else, ya dig? If x smaller ship can do it, or further if you can't even do it with an oversized slot its just one of those things that sticks out at me. I'm a woodworker and a mechanic though so my brain always thinks about dimensions of things I guess. Discussion can be over, I was just taking a coffee break from unlocking these engineers. I'm up to 5 so far, hoping to get Tani and Palin today, then I'll have most of what I need to optimize my favorite loadouts most of the way. Just have to farm materials then and grind the ranks
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The FGS has a SLF hanger...
That is a worthy note sir, good call. I have not done any fed rank since switching to PC unfortunately, but I will keep that in mind for the future.
A carrier class ship can take fighters, it is made for doing so:
A trading vessel can't, even if it's bigger, it's not supposed to carry fighters:
The answer is this simple, the keelback and others are SUPPOSED to carry fighters and have the launch bay. The Python wasn't supposed to carry fighters and doesn't have the launch bay. Even if the fighter bay would fit into the Python, it wouldn't be possible to drop or launch them.
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Yeah, keep on explaining it with lore & ship design limitations! LOL
The Keelback only has a fighter bay because Frontier realised that newer players - maybe even those attracted by this headline feature - with corresponding low credits & no ranks would not have an opportunity to participate!
The Keelback only has a fighter bay because Frontier realised that newer players - maybe even those attracted by this headline feature - with corresponding low credits & no ranks would not have an opportunity to participate!
Uhm, would you mind if I disagree with you here for a second?
Keelback less powerful okay but Corvette, Cutter, Conda, Gunship?
SLF is not a universal equalizer for less powerful ships either imho.