I lost E V E R Y T H I N G

ndorrin1

ndorrin1
So i had an almost fully upgraded Asp, and wanted to save up some money to cover insurance, so thought I'd do the nice safe option of mining metals.
However when cargo scooping I swooped past an asteroid, and then suddenly clipped to inside the asteroid and my ship destructed completely.
I obviously didn't have enough credits for the insurance as was mining to save for that!
I was left with a free sidewinder and 100,000 credits to my name.
So I've picked up an eagle, but I've lost about a months work :(
I understand that thems the breaks in Elite, but what's annoying is that I had managed to avoid the asteroid, and then suddenly I inside the asteroid.
Such a lame way to lose everything!
 

Whiterose

Whiterose
So, what did we learn today boys and girls?
At the risk of being shot down in flames I suggest you raise a ticket with support as this sounds like a glitch. Had you rammed the asteroid then that would have been fair, but a graphic glitch is not your fault.
 

Gogster

Gogster
Are people going to raise a ticket every time they lose their ship? Unless he's got video evidence of this "clipping" do we really expect FD to examine the data just prior to his destruction, assuming they have the actions of every asteroid recorded in the belt as well?
 

ndorrin1

ndorrin1
Whiterose said:
So, what did we learn today boys and girls?
At the risk of being shot down in flames I suggest you raise a ticket with support as this sounds like a glitch. Had you rammed the asteroid then that would have been fair, but a graphic glitch is not your fault.
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Yeah. May well do tonight when I get back on.
For the first time in a long time I actually rage quit out of a game last nightafter it happened, so it will have to wait till after work!
 

soma

soma
Man that sucks :(

But it has been repeated on this forums over and over again. Do not press the launch button when you dont have enough money to cover your insurance. Keep grinding for a few more hours before you buy a shiny new ship. I also tend to keep my old ships as backup. So if I screw up badly at least I am not immediately back to square one.
 

ndorrin1

ndorrin1
Gogster said:
Are people going to raise a ticket every time they lose their ship? Unless he's got video evidence of this "clipping" do we really expect FD to examine the data just prior to his destruction, assuming they have the actions of every asteroid recorded in the belt as well?
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This was what I thought which is why I didn't bother raising the ticket last night and just quit off.
I have no way to prove what happened as I wasn't videoing (as didn't expect it to happen), so they'd have to take my word for it, which I doubt will happen!
Also who's to say it was a glitch server end, and wasn't slowness, or graphical glitch on my machine, so not sure if there is much point with a ticket, but I may try later.
 

Gogster

Gogster
soma said:
Man that sucks :(

But it has been repeated on this forums over and over again. Do not press the launch button when you dont have enough money to cover your insurance. Keep grinding for a few more hours before you buy a shiny new ship. I also tend to keep my old ships as backup. So if I screw up badly at least I am not immediately back to square one.
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Not 100% true, there are bridging loans available, but your advice is very sensible, or ensure you're happy to go back to a Sidewinder if everything goes pear shaped.
 

Tox Laximus

Banned
Tox Laximus
There should be a warning if you don't have enough for insurance and during this stage of the game access to the last 3 saves because there are still bugs.
 

bassman

B
ndorrin1 said:
So i had an almost fully upgraded Asp, and wanted to save up some money to cover insurance,
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So in other words all you had to do was downgrade one of your A modules to a B (or even a B to a C) while you did the mining and you would have had more than enough money for insurance.
 

sahib

S
Ticket it, there's a (small) chance you'll get it back if it was indeed a glitch.

If not, I know it sucks and it's extremely anoying, but you'll get back on your feet in no time. You may have lost the money, but you've got the experience now, and that's much more valuable. That's coming from someone who lost over 20 milion credits by boosting into the letterbox in a brand new T7 without insurance money... Now I'm back in a Clipper and learned a very valuable lesson:

NEVER fly without insurance.
 

Steve72

S
I really dont understand how some one can spend 5mill per top end module and not be bothered with ins. Lets face it. Why would you dothat. if you are happy to mine to make credits why the need for a pec craft.
 

Nereus

Nereus
I once lost an Asp to an asteroid, too.

I got distracted with my cat and hit the rock head on! :)

Anyway, sorry for your loss, that really sucks.

My advice would be avoiding the Asp until you have plenty of extra cash. There's sort of a curse in action when the Asp and new players meet, I've been a victim myself.

Remember that a combat built Asp might cost you north of 30 million credits, and the insurance alone might go up to 2 million - not to mention the sometimes outrageous maintenance costs.

A very capable and mightily upgraded Cobra goes for less than 10 million, and gets the job done nicely.

Stick to a Cobra or T6 until you saved enough. Both are great ships, and the have the advantage of not giving you a heart attack should you blow them for any reason.
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
Going mining to save up insurance money doesn't count because you did it after buying the ship. Your mistake was buying the asp and fully upgrading it before you had the insurance money. Why didn't you just have a tiny bit of patience and do this first?

The act of undocking is unsafe. You can lose your ship before you even leave the station.

You knew it was unsafe but chose to do it and lost a month of play time in assets. Was that worth trading up a couple hours before buying the asp?

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Tox Laximus said:
There should be a warning if you don't have enough for insurance and during this stage of the game access to the last 3 saves because there are still bugs.
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How would this have helped him? He was fully aware he had no insurance!
 
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Flappers

Flappers
We need a subforum for these posts...

So, there is a small chance that it was a bug if it happened in the way you said it did (without a video or anything proving it, there is a risk that support might not do anything about it... Otherwise everyone who get's blown up to the fault of their own, would write a ticket, claim that a "bug" killed them so they could get their stuff back) - if it was a legit bug, and you have evidence to prove it, create a ticket. With the evidence they will give you your ship + money back.

But at the same time... you flew out without the money for insurance. Rule 101. Never do that.
 

Dr Zachary Smith

Dr Zachary Smith
We can no longer just post an image without a message apparently, even though it is said that a picture paints a thousand words...
Chin up !!
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