I lost merits for killing a CMDR that attacked me..............

lonewarrior · Jun 22, 2015

So a CMDR, who was not in my faction interdicted me, we were both wanted and when I killed him this message popped up:

He wasn't even in my faction, this has never happened before, im not really bothered by the merit loss but the arrow next to the Empire is now facing down and red so I've lost some reputation, why did this happen?

Dbrn47 · Jun 22, 2015

You are not allowed to kill Empire ships while you are aligned with an Empire Faction Power. The same goes for all Faction Powers. This means that you cannot kill anyone from Arissa, Aisling and Torval as well as Patreus. Hudson pilots cannot kill Winters pilots and so on.

lonewarrior · Jun 22, 2015

Dbrn47 said:
You are not allowed to kill Empire ships while you are aligned with an Empire Faction Power. The same goes for all Faction Powers. This means that you cannot kill anyone from Arissa, Aisling and Torval as well as Patreus.

Wow that really needs changing, if they are wanted or attack me first it should be changed to nullify that

Dbrn47 · Jun 22, 2015

lonewarrior said:
Wow that really needs changing, if they are wanted or attack me first it should be changed to nullify that

Well, had they killed you, they'd be here talking about it instead of you.

Privata · Jun 22, 2015

lonewarrior said:
Wow that really needs changing, if they are wanted or attack me first it should be changed to nullify that

No , I disagree. there is a lore reason and a logical one.
the empire is not at war with it own memebers , not yet... but until an all out war starts you are not to kill anyone who belongs to the same global faction as you.
think of it this way :
UK and US are allies but they might want to out smart each other , but they will do it with spy and covert ops not by shooting there planes down

Kayweg · Jun 22, 2015

Privata said:
No , I disagree. there is a lore reason and a logical one.
the empire is not at war with it own memebers , not yet... but until an all out war starts you are not to kill anyone who belongs to the same global faction as you.
think of it this way :
UK and US are allies but they might want to out smart each other , but they will do it with spy and covert ops not by shooting there planes down

I'm sorry, but that's a nonsensical lore then, where self defense is punished.
Less lore and more common sense would do this a game a lot of good.

Privata · Jun 22, 2015

Kayweg said:
I'm sorry, but that's a nonsensical lore then, where self defense is punished.
Less lore and more common sense would do this a game a lot of good.

More lore would do the game good.
however I agree that in self defence it should not be punished.
what I think would be a fair system is if you attack an member of the same main faction you lose half your merits and if you kill him/her you lose all your merits and get a massive fine.
however the victime is free to fight back. thats how I would do it.

Kayweg · Jun 22, 2015

Privata said:
More lore would do the game good.
however I agree that in self defence it should not be punished.
what I think would be a fair system is if you attack an member of the same main faction you lose half your merits and if you kill him/her you lose all your merits and get a massive fine.
however the victime is free to fight back. thats how I would do it.

That IS common sense.

CMDR Holycow · Jun 22, 2015

Long live the Alliance!!!

Gusty · Jun 22, 2015

Privata said:
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UK and US are allies but they might want to out smart each other , but they will do it with spy and covert ops not by shooting there planes down

When the US kill others, it is selfdefens.
When other defend themselfs it is terrorism.

Dbrn47 · Jun 22, 2015

Gusty said:
When the US kill others, it is selfdefens.
When other defend themselfs it is terrorism.

Can you not?

Privata · Jun 23, 2015

Dbrn47 said:
Can you not?

What you dont want to start a massive argument based on xenophobia and hate? how strange... lol ;p

Kaeldian · Jun 23, 2015

The right to self defense should be absolute....

LameoveR · Jun 23, 2015

Kaeldian said:
The right to self defense should be absolute....

Not even in every country and of course not in a GALACTIC SCALE.

Gully Foyle · Jun 23, 2015

Long Live the Alliance!

Lone:

You never mentioned if he fired on you first. Maybe he just wanted to say 'hi'

Hazara · Jun 23, 2015

Dbrn47 said:
You are not allowed to kill Empire ships while you are aligned with an Empire Faction Power. The same goes for all Faction Powers. This means that you cannot kill anyone from Arissa, Aisling and Torval as well as Patreus. Hudson pilots cannot kill Winters pilots and so on.

Ahaa, I suspected that was the case when I popped an adder last week.. Just saw opposing faction so I attacked. Thanks for the clarify.