I made a mess, how do I clean up?

[Porina]

Currently I'm in a Clipper optimised for cargo to do powerplay deliveries. After dropping off one of those deliveries, for a change I thought I'd fly to Lembava to drop off some more records for the community goal. I didn't want to fly back and change ship so just went on in the Clipper. Note the Clipper is a large ship so limits landing possibilities, but I do have a small fuel scoop in case of emergencies.

This went smoothly until Lembava itself. I got interdicted, and out of habit, I submitted, turned around and made the annoyance disappear. This was stupid. I'm in a hostile power territory, and the station I needed to visit now shows me as wanted. So I had no legal right to fight back, and on destruction I've now got a galaxy wide bounty on me. Suffice to say I thought trying landing there wasn't going to end well and got out of the system and out of hostile territory. Even that wasn't simple as I timed my jumps so I was practically out of fuel by the time I got to Lembava, and had just enough left to economic jump my way to a safe scoopable star.

Since I've played nice I've never had to worry about the bounty system before and don't really understand it. Looking at my transaction panel, I have a bounty issued by Lembava Commodities and best part of a 7 day timer counting down. In my Finance tab it says I have a galaxy-wide bounty. This is the bit I don't understand. Who can now legally shoot me down due to the bounty? Presumably Lembava commodities aligned ships can, as can anyone with a KWS. Am I shown as "wanted" for those without KWS?

I'm going to take a short break but my plan is to return to my own faction space and resume normal powerplay activities, if everyone doesn't want to kill me along the way.

 

[Lord_Crazy]

Currently I'm in a Clipper optimised for cargo to do powerplay deliveries. After dropping off one of those deliveries, for a change I thought I'd fly to Lembava to drop off some more records for the community goal. I didn't want to fly back and change ship so just went on in the Clipper. Note the Clipper is a large ship so limits landing possibilities, but I do have a small fuel scoop in case of emergencies.

This went smoothly until Lembava itself. I got interdicted, and out of habit, I submitted, turned around and made the annoyance disappear. This was stupid. I'm in a hostile power territory, and the station I needed to visit now shows me as wanted. So I had no legal right to fight back, and on destruction I've now got a galaxy wide bounty on me. Suffice to say I thought trying landing there wasn't going to end well and got out of the system and out of hostile territory. Even that wasn't simple as I timed my jumps so I was practically out of fuel by the time I got to Lembava, and had just enough left to economic jump my way to a safe scoopable star.

Since I've played nice I've never had to worry about the bounty system before and don't really understand it. Looking at my transaction panel, I have a bounty issued by Lembava Commodities and best part of a 7 day timer counting down. In my Finance tab it says I have a galaxy-wide bounty. This is the bit I don't understand. Who can now legally shoot me down due to the bounty? Presumably Lembava commodities aligned ships can, as can anyone with a KWS. Am I shown as "wanted" for those without KWS?

I'm going to take a short break but my plan is to return to my own faction space and resume normal powerplay activities, if everyone doesn't want to kill me along the way.

Wait you already have a galaxy-wide bounty? I have been shooting NPCs for credits and only have local bounties! I am jealous

Seriously though, a galaxy-wide bounty makes you wanted in any system owned by the large faction that issued the bounty.
So basically you should avoid Empire or Federal space (depending on who issued the bounty) for 7 days. After the 7 days are gone the bounty is still there as a dormant bounty for an additional 7 days but only activated by police scan. After these extra 7 days your bounty would be turned into a fine: dying and then respawning at a station controlled by the Empire or the Federation (again, depending on who issued the bounty) will cost you that fine.

 

[Macros Black]

Almost same thing happened to me in my favorite trading system; sneaked back in the system/station without being scanned (best not to be scanned when wanted), bought a sidewinder and let the security force blow it up. Wanted status gone.

 

[Porina]

The bounty is showing as issued by Lembava Commodities. I'm not in game to check who they're aligned with, but I think they're independent. So galaxy-wide isn't galaxy wide, it is aligned to the major power? I don't get it!

I was debating, now I've docked elsewhere, could I buy a disposable ship, return to Lembava and kill myself to clear it faster? But then it is not clear to me the "correct" way to die... I've sold off the exploration data now, and apart from a couple of 400 credit bonds I can't be bothered to cash in, I don't think I'd lose much from dying. But if galaxy-wide isn't really galaxy-wide, I don't mind lying low elsewhere and let the timer run out.

 

[Balfuset790]

The bounty is showing as issued by Lembava Commodities. I'm not in game to check who they're aligned with, but I think they're independent. So galaxy-wide isn't galaxy wide, it is aligned to the major power? I don't get it!

I was debating, now I've docked elsewhere, could I buy a disposable ship, return to Lembava and kill myself to clear it faster? But then it is not clear to me the "correct" way to die... I've sold off the exploration data now, and apart from a couple of 400 credit bonds I can't be bothered to cash in, I don't think I'd lose much from dying. But if galaxy-wide isn't really galaxy-wide, I don't mind lying low elsewhere and let the timer run out.

Your galaxy wide bounty is the sum total of all your local bounties. It's what a player would earn if the hit you with a KWS and then killed you.

If you only have a local bounty in Lembava with Lembava Commodities that's the only place you're actively wanted. Depending on the dive of the bounty even NPC bounty hunters in other systems might leave you alone. Other authoritird most certainly will not shoot at you outside of Lembava

 

[Hurricane Moon]

hmmm not even Harvey "the wolf" Keitel can clean up this one mate lol

 

[Cmnd Fulsom]

Okay, so just to clarify this, bounties are not issued by the cosmos, they're issued by governments and factions. So here's how it works, if the faction that put the bounty on you in present in the system you'll show as wanted, if not you're fine until someone hits you with their kill-warrant scanner. After seven days your bounty will laps into a fine, you can dock at a station with the issuing faction present and pay of the bounty all's well. You can still dock at their stations right now, just be aware that if the fuzz scans you in space occupied by the issuing faction they will attack and there will probably be quite a few of them.

If you're really that worried, go to anarchy space and let things cool off for a while. No one to attack you there except the odd bounty hunter and maniac.

Stay frosty

 

[Jockey79]

The bounty is showing as issued by Lembava Commodities. I'm not in game to check who they're aligned with, but I think they're independent. So galaxy-wide isn't galaxy wide, it is aligned to the major power? I don't get it!

I was debating, now I've docked elsewhere, could I buy a disposable ship, return to Lembava and kill myself to clear it faster? But then it is not clear to me the "correct" way to die... I've sold off the exploration data now, and apart from a couple of 400 credit bonds I can't be bothered to cash in, I don't think I'd lose much from dying. But if galaxy-wide isn't really galaxy-wide, I don't mind lying low elsewhere and let the timer run out.

I have 6 days left on my bounty, I just stay away from the system I gained it and I'm all good.
Local police and hunters just ignore me as I'm only wanted by 1 small faction in Delaine space, which I go to for merits (hence the bounty).

So, just chill out and let it expire.

 

[Araviel]

on rare occasions npc bounty hunters might try and hunt you down, think it depends on the size of your bounty.
but if they attack you outside of Lembava they will commit a crime them selfs and you can legally defend yourself.
so far it has only happened to me once when i visited a Nav beacon in a system where i wasn't wanted, and im currently flying around whit 700k on my head.
and the local police made a good job at sending the hunters that attacked me into early retirement.

 

[Porina]

Ok, I think there were two ways to interpret "galaxy-wide" and I took the wrong one.
1, applicable in the whole galaxy
2, sum of everything in the whole-galaxy

I thought 1, and it is actually 2.

So basically as long as I keep out of Lembava for the next 7 days, then as long as no-one hits me with a KWS everything is essentially normal?

And to clarify another point, if I'm wanted in Lembava, but say I'm in a "safe" system elsewhere. Someone hits me with a KWS, but had no legal right to attack in that system, they would themselves incur a penalty there if they were to attack me?

It would be handy to have a Rules of Engagement 101, or quite possibly there is one somewhere, I should find it and read it!

 

[Colonel North]

Currently I'm in a Clipper optimised for cargo to do powerplay deliveries. After dropping off one of those deliveries, for a change I thought I'd fly to Lembava to drop off some more records for the community goal. I didn't want to fly back and change ship so just went on in the Clipper. Note the Clipper is a large ship so limits landing possibilities, but I do have a small fuel scoop in case of emergencies.

This went smoothly until Lembava itself. I got interdicted, and out of habit, I submitted, turned around and made the annoyance disappear. This was stupid. I'm in a hostile power territory, and the station I needed to visit now shows me as wanted. So I had no legal right to fight back, and on destruction I've now got a galaxy wide bounty on me. Suffice to say I thought trying landing there wasn't going to end well and got out of the system and out of hostile territory. Even that wasn't simple as I timed my jumps so I was practically out of fuel by the time I got to Lembava, and had just enough left to economic jump my way to a safe scoopable star.

Since I've played nice I've never had to worry about the bounty system before and don't really understand it. Looking at my transaction panel, I have a bounty issued by Lembava Commodities and best part of a 7 day timer counting down. In my Finance tab it says I have a galaxy-wide bounty. This is the bit I don't understand. Who can now legally shoot me down due to the bounty? Presumably Lembava commodities aligned ships can, as can anyone with a KWS. Am I shown as "wanted" for those without KWS?

I'm going to take a short break but my plan is to return to my own faction space and resume normal powerplay activities, if everyone doesn't want to kill me along the way.

Just don't worry about it mate, as long as its not your 'home' system just play on a as normal. Even if it is, its not a game breaker.

Stay out of the system you picked the bounty up (and any others that have the same faction). Check before entering the system if your not sure, but give it a wide berth and you should not have a problem.

I'm 1d 9h 39m away from seeing out as similar bounty after an 'oversight' in a RES. I won't lie I was tempted to do the suicide-winder trick but now I'm glad I didn't. The bounty has had zero impact on my game play. Other than working a different systems RES!

Some go exploring, probably quite a good tactic from an 'immersion' point of view, but you don't have to.

So, FWIW don't let it spoil your game, carry on Commander!

 

[Zulu Romeo]

1.3 changed bounty laws so that if you commit a major crime within a superpower system, only the minor faction controlling that system can slap a bounty on your head, and not the superpower itself. Any systems under that minor faction's control then marks you as Wanted for a set period of time. Any systems not controlled by that minor faction but still with the same superpower are safe to you. They can still claim your bounty of they KWS you under whatever circumstances, but cannot legally attack you unless you were Lawless or an enemy Power in their eyes, or if you had a separate bounty from them.

I don't know what happens if the minor faction who issues the bounty then loses control of a system through loss of faction influence. I guess your bounty remains as it is subject to time remaining, but you would no longer be Wanted in that system unless you had annoyed the new controlling faction too of course. Also, what does it take for a superpower to decide to make you Wanted throughout their space?

 

[mavrac]

Wait you already have a galaxy-wide bounty? I have been shooting NPCs for credits and only have local bounties! I am jealous

Seriously though, a galaxy-wide bounty makes you wanted in any system owned by the large faction that issued the bounty.
So basically you should avoid Empire or Federal space (depending on who issued the bounty) for 7 days. After the 7 days are gone the bounty is still there as a dormant bounty for an additional 7 days but only activated by police scan. After these extra 7 days your bounty would be turned into a fine: dying and then respawning at a station controlled by the Empire or the Federation (again, depending on who issued the bounty) will cost you that fine.

Ok due to fed missions I have two 7 day bounties two different systems. Can I just have an npc or player kill me, and get rid of these in one shot or do I need to go to each system and die each time for each bounty?

 

[MarcusKross]

Currently I'm in a Clipper optimised for cargo to do powerplay deliveries. After dropping off one of those deliveries, for a change I thought I'd fly to Lembava to drop off some more records for the community goal. I didn't want to fly back and change ship so just went on in the Clipper. Note the Clipper is a large ship so limits landing possibilities, but I do have a small fuel scoop in case of emergencies.

This went smoothly until Lembava itself. I got interdicted, and out of habit, I submitted, turned around and made the annoyance disappear. This was stupid. I'm in a hostile power territory, and the station I needed to visit now shows me as wanted. So I had no legal right to fight back, and on destruction I've now got a galaxy wide bounty on me. Suffice to say I thought trying landing there wasn't going to end well and got out of the system and out of hostile territory. Even that wasn't simple as I timed my jumps so I was practically out of fuel by the time I got to Lembava, and had just enough left to economic jump my way to a safe scoopable star.

Since I've played nice I've never had to worry about the bounty system before and don't really understand it. Looking at my transaction panel, I have a bounty issued by Lembava Commodities and best part of a 7 day timer counting down. In my Finance tab it says I have a galaxy-wide bounty. This is the bit I don't understand. Who can now legally shoot me down due to the bounty? Presumably Lembava commodities aligned ships can, as can anyone with a KWS. Am I shown as "wanted" for those without KWS?

I'm going to take a short break but my plan is to return to my own faction space and resume normal powerplay activities, if everyone doesn't want to kill me along the way.

3 Words for you. CALL FUEL RATS

 

[Cryptex]

I haven't tested this yet, but from the looks of it the new KWS system is a little strange. If someone scans you in a system other than the one you are Wanted in, they can see the bounty but your status will stay Clean per that system. So if they want to claim your bounty, they have to attack you and become wanted themselves. I only assume this because after scanning someone with a bounty from another system, they stay clean. So I assume if I were to attack, I would get a bounty for the current system despite enforcing justice for the other system. Although the major factions may have something to do with this.

If anyone has tested otherwise, I would love to know. And I don't mean pre 1.3 mechanics. I'm talking current gameplay.

 

[Mr_Blastman]

Well, look at the bright side... since you're wanted, you can go out and see how high you can score now! So get to killing and plundering!

 

[Steve72]

I have taken a few assignation missions and now have a bounty and wanted in a system. Oddly I can enter combat zones and pick a side and earn a crust and no one cares im wanted. A res would be another matter.

Before 1.3 I was squeaky clean. Now. Not so much. Killing 12innocent traders did not help. Atleast I picked on npc. Apart froma guy I almost accidently killed whilst attempting to pirate but that's another story.

 

[Lord_Crazy]

Ok due to fed missions I have two 7 day bounties two different systems. Can I just have an npc or player kill me, and get rid of these in one shot or do I need to go to each system and die each time for each bounty?

You don't get rid of bounties anymore, they go dormant and/or into a legacy fine after a certain time. You can pay your legacy fine if you wish to do so but it is not required.
Being killed does not cancel the bounty, it turns it into a dormant bounty, that only authority ships can reactivate upon scan.
If you are too afraid of these bounties just avoid the systems that issued them for a week

 

[Knights of Nee]

Ive had a similar thing just happen, boosted out of station at lembava, clipped another ship, got a fine and was then immediately fired upon, becoming wanted. Jumped to a local system to get out of there.

Swapped my asp for an eagle to go back and either pay fine or get killed to wipe status, when back at lembava I made it back into the station but there was no option to pay the fine at the security office. So I exited the dock and flew around the station until being scanned, after about 10 minutes of avoiding the security firing at me they finally got me

I'm now have a 10k dormant bounty in lembava, how can I clear this as I wanted to contribute to the community goal there?
Any help appreciated.

 

[GJ51]

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I made a mess, how do I clean up?[/h]
Wetwipes?