I might never colonize a system unless I misunderstood something about sniping.

[Aaron T]

SOLVED.

I was getting excited about colonizing a system, custom naming everything and customizing each station, port, and such.

I was going to build the first small outpost in a rush of course to meet the deadline, and then maybe work over years to keep adding to the system.

But my dream may have just been dashed against the rocks.

In a guide someone warns about system sniping (the first I have seen of it) and if I am not totally misunderstanding it you claim a system, deploy the beacon and a huge building carrier comes in.

You haul everything, you deliver load after load and finally as you are about to deliver the very last load, someone, anyone, swoops in and makes that final delivery, gets the cut screen and goes to the brand-new station and now owns the station/system?

Please help me understand this and how it works.

Here is what conerns me:

"The issue is further compounded by the facts that:

• The CMDR delivering the final shipment has to go through the whole Brewer Corp video animation, undock, and fly to the new station (and in some cases even switch ships - a Type 9 won’t be able to dock at an outpost for instance)
• Any CMDR going for a “Snipe” can just loiter already undocked in a “racing” ship (a Viper Mk3, Imperial Eagle, etc.)

Now consider this:

• “CMDR A” (you) built the whole outposts bridge, and is delivering the final load of steel in a Type 8; will have to watch the whole Brewer video, then undock, figure out where the outpost is, slowboat there, and go for the claim.
• “CMDR B” (sniper) didn’t deliver a single ton of cargo across any of your bridge’s 20 outposts, is circling the construction site in a 932m/s Viper Mk3, and makes a beeline to the new station the moment it appears.

CMDR B is practically guaranteed to succeed in the competitive claim."

So, as I understand this your basic claim and putting the beacon out has nothing to do with it, it only starts the process but any tom, , or harry can swoop in and be the first one in the new station and it now belongs to them?

 

[Robert Maynard]

The System Architect remains in control of system development regardless of which player makes the final delivery which finishes the first station.

The System Architect does not "own" the system.

 

[Aaron T]

The System Architect remains in control of system development regardless of which player makes the final delivery which finishes the first station.

The System Architect does not "own" the system.

Thank you, I realize I would not own the system.

But what is this here:
"The issue is further compounded by the facts that:

• The CMDR delivering the final shipment has to go through the whole Brewer Corp video animation, undock, and fly to the new station (and in some cases even switch ships - a Type 9 won’t be able to dock at an outpost for instance)
• Any CMDR going for a “Snipe” can just loiter already undocked in a “racing” ship (a Viper Mk3, Imperial Eagle, etc.)

Now consider this:

• “CMDR A” (you) built the whole outposts bridge, and is delivering the final load of steel in a Type 8; will have to watch the whole Brewer video, then undock, figure out where the outpost is, slowboat there, and go for the claim.
• “CMDR B” (sniper) didn’t deliver a single ton of cargo across any of your bridge’s 20 outposts, is circling the construction site in a 932m/s Viper Mk3, and makes a beeline to the new station the moment it appears.

CMDR B is practically guaranteed to succeed in the competitive claim."

So, as I understand this your basic claim and putting the beacon out has nothing to do with it, it only starts the process but any tom, , or harry can swoop in and be the first one in the new station and it now belongs to them?

Does that station now basically see them as the builder, could I no longer name it? Will this sniper now own it and be able to name it?

Will all my work have been in vain?

That is what I want to know.

If them swooping in makes no difference why would they want to? And why is the word sniping used if no one can steal it from you?

Thank you again.

 

[Screemonster]

"sniping" doesn't refer to taking your system.

It refers to making a claim from your system the instant it goes live, to claim a system that was previously out of reach.

So for instance, if you have your eye on system A, which is 25ly away from the nearest inhabited system, and colonise system B at the halfway point, someone could wait for you to complete your station in system B or finish it themselves, then immediately use the station in system B to place a claim on system A.

 

[Robert Maynard]

The term "sniping" refers to being the one to make a claim to a system only now in colonisation range due to the completion of the system that another player is System Architect for - it has nothing to do with the newly completed first station in the system from which the claim is made (other than that's where the new claim was made from).

 

[Aaron T]

The term "sniping" refers to being the one to make a claim to a system only now in colonisation range due to the completion of the system that another player is System Architect for - it has nothing to do with the newly completed first station in the system from which the claim is made (other than that's where the new claim was made from).

I got it now. They just went into the station and brought up the colonization broker and then claim something within the 15 LYs from the station.

So that would only affect me if I was wanting to claim all the systems right there close by?

That would not bother me. I want to do one system and build it out over time.

Thank you.

I was highly distracted for the last few hours, noise, wife, nephews and nieces and could not read nor type more than three words without being distracted again. I nipped it all in the bud and was finally able to read in silence.

 

[Robert Maynard]

So if I make a claim, put the beacon out in system (Insert name) and build 90% of the initial outpost but someone makes that last delivery the station still sees/lists me as the architect and I still name and customize it, and I still am the architect of the system and can build there

Exactly.

 

[Aaron T]

I got it now. They just went into the station and brought up the colonization broker and then claim something within the 15 LYs from the station.

So that would only affect me if I was wanting to claim all the systems right there close by?

That would not bother me. I want to do one system and build it out over time.

Thank you.

I was highly distracted for the last few hours, noise, wife, nephews and nieces and could not read nor type more than the words withjout being distracted again. I nipped it sall in the bud and was finally able to read in silence.

Exactly.

Thank you. As I get older distractions distract me much more than they used to.

 

[Aaron T]

"sniping" doesn't refer to taking your system.

It refers to making a claim from your system the instant it goes live, to claim a system that was previously out of reach.

So for instance, if you have your eye on system A, which is 25ly away from the nearest inhabited system, and colonise system B at the halfway point, someone could wait for you to complete your station in system B or finish it themselves, then immediately use the station in system B to place a claim on system A.

I see now. Thank you.