Horizons I must be daft... can't find surface location for mission

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pocketmoon

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Told to deliver to Sandos "something or another" on a planet in the Dea Motrona System. Unexplored so wizz around and scan the lot. There are two land-able planets. One has two bases, neither of them the one I'm looking for. What have I missed ?! :)

Rob
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RayRay

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I have same problems, took 2 missions, can't complete any of them as planet or station does'nt exist. Must be a bug in Horizons
 

CMDR Kiyoshii

CMDR Kiyoshii
I just had a similar issue. The ground station I needed to land on wasn't anywhere to be seen; and despite buying exploration data none of the rocky/icy planets or my required port were anywhere to be seen on the system map.

In the end I landed at a outfitting station, equiped an advanced discovery scanner, then re-visited and scanned the system myself. All the landable rocky/icy planets then showed; plus ground based ports including the one needed for the mission.
 

londonx

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You don't need an advanced scanner ;). Most people will have a basic or intermediate scanner, in which case after an initial scan inside the system they will need to fly to any discovered unknown planets and do a targetted scan (planet targetted and within range of the ships targetting system) to reveal the settlement details.
 

CMDR Kiyoshii

CMDR Kiyoshii
Well that depends how far out those planets/ports are. The one I had to visit was 2000 l/s out, which is outside the range of the intermediate scanner.
 
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Gaz

Gaz
Yep I've had that issue, had to abandon 2 missions as I couldn't find the planet the bases were on. Plus didn't have time to go scanning the systems either, although I bought the data and still no joy.
 

londonx

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Just tested it out, exploration data is not sufficient. You just need to do an initial scan of the system using a discovery scanner within range of the undiscovered planet and it will reveal the planet with the Mission marker highlighting the correct planet on the System Map, clicking on the planet will show you the planet view with the base name and location. You don't need to do a targetted scan of all the System bodies if you do not want to.
 

sdkfz2512

sdkfz2512
londonx said:
Just tested it out, exploration data is not sufficient. You just need to do an initial scan of the system using a discovery scanner within range of the undiscovered planet and it will reveal the planet with the Mission marker highlighting the correct planet on the System Map, clicking on the planet will show you the planet view with the base name and location. You don't need to do a targetted scan of all the System bodies if you do not want to.
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Nope. no dice here either. Even upgraded to intermediate scanner and still nada. 3 missions unsat due to the same results from cmdrs above. I hate say, but quoted incident seems anomalous. Did detailed surface scans with IS, celestial body found, but no bases shown on planets unless already there. Deatailed scanner will not dind the mission based bases if they are not initially on any mission maps. Detailed surface scanner next?
 

Hadron-Higgs-Boson

Hadron-Higgs-Boson
Am I missing something? how on earth is there a base in an unexplored system on an unexplored planet? That being the case, the rest of the issue and possible solutions make about as much sense :)
 

EzeThieL

EzeThieL
sdkfz2512 said:
Nope. no dice here either. Even upgraded to intermediate scanner and still nada. 3 missions unsat due to the same results from cmdrs above. I hate say, but quoted incident seems anomalous. Did detailed surface scans with IS, celestial body found, but no bases shown on planets unless already there. Deatailed scanner will not dind the mission based bases if they are not initially on any mission maps. Detailed surface scanner next?
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You could try with a detailed surface scanner, or maybe you have that weird bug that I have and it's floating around to many other users with planets disappearing from system map and navigation? Maybe your mission is on one of those planets? Just saying
 

sdkfz2512

sdkfz2512
EzeThiel, you hit the nail on the head. These high credit land on the planet missions are good...after all day trying to do similar missions, and after some dinking around (for me) it turns out that the addition of a detailed surface scanner took care of all the above woes in this post. So a no kidding job-58 ly planet landfall job, some 150k worth. On transactions tab it would let me plot my destination, but of course away from departure point, no nav/coord lock. Made my way to requisite system, intermediate scanned, found planet, buzzed around planet but no "target" lock seen on my system. Same as before. Then fired up DSC and Voila! Thar she blows! Now the nav system holds the lock and can glide right in smooth as sil (watch out for FSI during orbital glides though). So, it seems for some of these missions, especially big payout ones, a Intermediate (or Advanced-Basic would work for less than 1000ls) and a detailed surface scanner. Ran 7 more missions like this, all successful. So, I can only conclude it is not a "glitch", but those nefarious dev guys making us figure things out for ourselves (you guys are clever) LOL!!

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Trust me HHB, those places are there buddy.....it seems there are systems that are "explored", but not completely. They make us work for the money!!
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Do you have an Advanced scanner? Maybe the target planet is by the secondary star quite far away.

If you don't have the scanner, yo can also visit any nearby system and buy the exploration data for the target system.
 

Commander Regel

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This is a problem I experienced too. I bought the exploration data, but on arriving at the system, I couldn't find the port. I returned later (after the mission expired) with an advanced discovery scanner and a detailed surface scanner, and was then able to find the port. I did notice that once I did a discovery scan, the system map showed my mission destination (put an icon over it) which allowed me to select it, even though it was still displayed as "unexplored".

I'd be interested in hearing from a developer or designer if this is by design, as it means that all delivery missions really require one of the above scanners (or both? I'm not sure which actually helped), which will be quite an investment for new players and take up valuable space in small ships (the alternative being to manually check out each planet, which would be very time consuming).

Personally, I'd like to see it so that any mission destinations are available in the system map once this data has been bought. It would make sense from a gameplay perspective (players don't need advanced exploring scanners to do delivery missions) as well as an in-game consistency perspective (if a station is offering a mission to deliver something to a port, it logically must know about that port). Perhaps, in the future, there could be another mission type to discover "hidden" bases. It would make sense for these not to be in the system map, but that's very different from typical courier missions and could be described as such in the mission text.
 

Lightspeed

Lightspeed
Yes, a couple of bug reports later, and helpful comments in other threads indicated I should purchase a Advanced Discovery Scanner.

When you scan a system, the entire list of planets and stars (may be more than one in a system) are listed as Unexplored. But at least the System Map points to the planet where the spaceport for mission completion is located.

But you then have to navigate to the Unexplored planet, when they are all called Unexplored ! The only way I could do that was to work out, before proceeding too far into the system, how far from the parent star the targeted Unexplored planet is, and by deduction work out which one to head for.

When you get close, the discovery scanner kicks in again and identifies the space ports on the surface.

But the analysis should be done first, if you can, before travelling too far so that you aren't flying from planet to planet, sometimes thousands of light years apart, to find where the target space port is located. The method is not 100% fool proof, but helps to eliminate planets which are obviously too far from the star system to be candidates.
 
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Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Lightspeed said:
But you then have to navigate to the Unexplored planet, when they are all called Unexplored ! The only way I could do that was to work out, before proceeding too far into the system, how far from the parent star the targeted Unexplored planet is, and by deduction work out which one to head for.
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You DO know you can target the planet in system map, right? :)
 

seko

seko
I have often thought that, how can you put a base on a planet that hasn't been explored? Surely you would have to explore something and discover it if you propose to build a base there! I have had the same issue and I have an advanced scanner, flew 2k miles from a star and still never found the port I was looking for, no wonder it was 150k credit mission
 

Lightspeed

Lightspeed
So long as you fly to the planet indicated in the System Map (your target for the mission) after scanning with your ADS, you will be able to identify the target port once you have got close enough to the planet. It's not the distance from the star that counts, it's your proximity to the planet. As you approach the planet, your scanner will suddenly start working to identify all ports at the planet in your NAV list in the left panel.

My first mission was bugged, but subsequent ones have worked ok with the ADS.
 
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