I want data!

Dante80

Dante80
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I want exploration to give me the opportunity to actually explore thoroughly any unknown celestial object. I want to go to orbit around it, map the whole surface, scan it for places of interest and minerals, go down and take surface samples from different parts of the planet. I want to be an exogeologist, exobiologist, a scientist in space, not just an exploring buckaroo.

We have the galaxy map, we have the system map. I want a planet/object map..with data. I want people to watch it and become educated in astronomy and exoplanetology.

I want data. I want

mass
density
chemical composition
atmospheric composition
radius
orbital period
rotation period
temperature
axial tilt
gravity
magnetic field
sea level
geographical coordinates
accurate mineral mapping
accurate biological mapping
accurate color mapping
accurate height mapping
etc etc etc

What do you think? Most if not all of the data addressed here are already embedded to the object due to the procedural generation laws that are used to make it. The data is already there. And as the game progresses and we get planetary flight, interaction and avatar play, should we be able to explore it, view it, find it or not?

I have heard that FD were surprised that a lot of players were interested in exploration. Can they surprise us too?
 
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Kris

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Dante80 said:
Most if not all of the data addressed here are already embedded to the object due to the procedural generation laws that are used to make it.
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I´m not so sure.

But i´m all for it, 100%. It would be really really cool. But i fear needed time (worktime) might be too big to implement it. But if this feature is do-able, even parts of it, i´m 100% in favour of it.
 

Darth Sidious

Darth Sidious
Kris said:
I´m not so sure.

But i´m all for it, 100%. It would be really really cool. But i fear needed time (worktime) might be too big to implement it. But if this feature is do-able, even parts of it, i´m 100% in favour of it.
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David was talking about go hunting for big game on the planetsurface
how can this not be described?
There simply can not , not be data for this to be implemented
 

Tinman

Tinman
Dante80 said:
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I want exploration to give me the opportunity to actually explore thoroughly any unknown celestial object. I want to go to orbit around it, map the whole surface, scan it for places of interest and minerals, go down and take surface samples from different parts of the planet. I want to be an exogeologist, exobiologist, a scientist in space, not just an exploring buckaroo.

We have the galaxy map, we have the system map. I want a planet/object map..with data. I want people to watch it and become educated in astronomy and exoplanetology.

I want data. I want

mass
density
chemical composition
atmospheric composition
radius
orbital period
rotation period
temperature
axial tilt
gravity
magnetic field
sea level
geographical coordinates
accurate mineral mapping
accurate biological mapping
accurate color mapping
accurate height mapping
etc etc etc

What do you think? Most if not all of the data addressed here are already embedded to the object due to the procedural generation laws that are used to make it. The data is already there. And as the game progresses and we get planetary flight, interaction and avatar play, should we be able to explore it, view it, find it or not?

I have heard that FD were surprised that a lot of players were interested in exploration. Can they surprise us too?
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Your not alone! ;)

Sounds good to me! :cool:
 

Dante80

Dante80
Kris said:
I´m not so sure.
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Well, thats how FE2 and FFE worked. Each celestial body contained information in the system map that was directly pulled from the procedural generation algorithm that made it in the first place. Thats 20 years ago btw..C:

It included things like mass, temperature, orbital period etc.
 

spookytooth

spookytooth
Absol-lutely bloomin' well agree 100%. I'd mentioned in another thread I'd like the option of a scientific approach, and it had been suggested that hard points could be used for probes or instruments instead of weapons. I'd love the opportunity to do this, especially given the size of the area of space we'll be given. Fingers crossed sometime in the future ED will be successful enough to encompass something like this with an expansion :cool:
 

Dante80

Dante80
I was actually thinking about this too.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/22/kerbal-space-program-why-nasa-minecraft

When David Braben coded FE2 some 20+ years ago, our understanding of how star systems evolved, how exoplanets were formed etc was rudimentary. DB made a galaxy of star systems with a lot of celestial bodies, from gas giants to metallic moons and barren planetoids. He acknowledged the Goldilocks theorem and produced planets with indigenous life. All from his head and all from a random seed with laws that governed realistic attributes and limits of what should be where and why.

As our understanding of such issues becomes more complete, we see that what he made could very well turn out to be true/the norm. Our current astronomical and observation tools have turned to the stars and started producing thousands of possible or confirmed exoplanets.

What I am trying to say is that the more data the game provides for things like that, the more accurate and engaging a learning tool it can become for everyone. The gameplay factor is both known and warranted, but the additional value of projecting our astronomical beliefs in the future and dreaming about our universe while getting educated about how it may look and work is not trivial. Far from that.

Thus, I want to be a "space scientist". David Braben wants to be a "space scientist" and create an accurate, complete and complex model for our own galaxy...so FD, give us all the details you can. The data is already there. Make it so..C:

I leave you with this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYGDiZoD1gs
 
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Malicar

Banned
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I agree with OP and even if we can't land on planets yet we should be building the groundwork for it to happen just like No Mans Sky wants to do. Charting surfaces of planets and finding oceans to name them after you or allow you to name them. Generate a name based on procedural code but also allow the exlororer to give it a custom name if he or she desires. Hell I want to explore the oceans themselves and chart them. Who knows what we might find or be able to build one day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpDn5qPp3s

Maybe Frontier needs to hire Hellogames to help create the first expansion for ED. Looks like a match made in heaven really. Anyone want to bet No Mans Sky was inspired in some way shape or form by Elite?
 
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Lobstris

Lobstris
I'm hoping that things like the spectral sequence of stars, orbital periods, masses, surface temperatures, how much for a pint of beer etc. will be in the planetary descriptions. It would be a retrograde step from Frontier/FFE if they were not.
 

jinja

jinja
natte hond said:
never thought we wont get it.
its just not there jet.
unless I'm utterly mistaken , nah cant be..
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Agree. Cannot see ED being implemented without such data available (where known/discovered in the game-play galaxy). Too much of a missed opportunity, and not in the Elite style to not provide such data.

The OP is kinda asking for something we're almost definitely gonna get.
 
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