Newcomer / Intro I want this game but ...

I decided I want this game on PC because X1 has no flight stick, but I'd have to buy a PC as currently I use my X1 for my limited aray of e-activities. Problem is I'd need to find a cheap-ish PC due to minimum wage and cost of living. Can anyone point me to a good priced(U$D) PC that'll run ED? I dont care so much about graphics as long as it runs good, I still play Splinter Cell SAR to give you an idea of what I can accept in terms of graphics as long as the game runs smooth.
 
Wouldn't it be easier just to tell a number like I can afford to spend like 400$(all included like pc/joystick/monitor/ect.) on a Pc or whatever your limit is....?
Perhaps someone can event tell you which grafic card and setup you should buy...
 
Personally I'd probably just wait until the xbox release rather than shelling out the coin for a new PC. Wouldn't surprise me if we see a xbox comparable flight stick closer to release. Or even better get the new pc and sell the xbox.
 
Personally I'd probably just wait until the xbox release rather than shelling out the coin for a new PC. Wouldn't surprise me if we see a xbox comparable flight stick closer to release. Or even better get the new pc and sell the xbox.

No PC's need too much investment too often, I'd only use the one I plan to buy for this StarCraft and school. I'll keep an eye out to see if you're right about someone making a console flight stick by then.

Wouldn't it be easier just to tell a number like I can afford to spend like 400$(all included like pc/joystick/monitor/ect.) on a Pc or whatever your limit is....?
Perhaps someone can event tell you which grafic card and setup you should buy...

No real limit just a mater of how long I gotta save, thats why I stressed it being able to run smoothly. I asked here because I need a PC for ArtsInstitute online courses anyway, and I figure a PC that can run a game well will also work for my future schooling.

This game is definitely not worth investing a new computer on.

Get the xbox version. To be honest, I would not recommend getting this game at all.

First you may be right but it's for more than this game. Second, that is your opinion, my opinion is that it is good enough that I may just buy it on both X1 and PC if I like it good enough. I used my friends game for a few days and he was shocked at how I was piloting solely useing no piloting assist. I like ED especiall because it was the first flight sim I tried that was 0-g, and the first that took longer than 10 minutes for me to get good at. I was practically unbeatable in all WWII and modern jet fighter sims I've played but in ED even after days of play I was good enough to out manuever man NPC's but I wouldn't dare fight because I had a feeling I didn't have enough skill in my controll to even entertain the thought. I don't know if I'll still be as star struck after haveing it for awhile, but I think I will enjoy it and play it for years(I mean double digits not just 2 or 3) after I buy it.
 
Ok buddy.
You have been warned.

I hope you're wrong, but if you aren't I'll give you a heads up so you can say "told you so." Why do you think I shouldn't buy it anyway, what's so wrong with it I coudn't see while I was playing thos few days?




Empty you say? That was part of the charm, I expect space to be empty. Especially great for a stealth player, avoiding in game interaction is my hobby.
 
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That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. However, this is not the case for everyone. I've been playing since August and i still love it.


** for some reason the quote was not included with this but this is Re: Premier's comment
 
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It's all a matter of taste.

I learned about ED on December 16th as it was released. I had no computer at the time and had been delaying getting one for years.

After reading about ED and watching the gameplay videos in youtube, there was no doubt in my mind I wanted and needed to own this game!

Different situation though, I was able to break savings and piggybank and got me a decent rig with HOTAS for $1.2k by Xmas.

Worth every penny. Havent skipped a single day of playing it ever since and still got lots to look forward!

Go for it buddy! Good luck! and I wish I could help you but not really a geek with knowledge in PC's.
 
It's all a matter of taste.

I learned about ED on December 16th as it was released. I had no computer at the time and had been delaying getting one for years.

After reading about ED and watching the gameplay videos in youtube, there was no doubt in my mind I wanted and needed to own this game!

Different situation though, I was able to break savings and piggybank and got me a decent rig with HOTAS for $1.2k by Xmas.

Worth every penny. Havent skipped a single day of playing it ever since and still got lots to look forward!

Go for it buddy! Good luck! and I wish I could help you but not really a geek with knowledge in PC's.
I'm like you there, I get a dumb look when people get into talking bout graphix cards and the procesor htz.

You lucky devil. I need a decent PC to do classes so I'm already saveing but I don't need a dedicated gameing PC because other than StarCraft and othe lower end games(StarCraft and other RTS seem low end to me at least compared to console) I'll only use it for school and ED mainly.
 
I run it on an AMD FX-6300, with an R7 260X GPU (2GB), 4 GB RAM, Win 7 Pro 64 on a small SSD. Probably doable for 400-500 USD without peripherals.

It's definitely NOT a dedicated gaming PC - it's my home office workhorse - but Elite runs perfectly smooth with the preset high graphic settings in 1920x1080 and still looks good. (Good, not awe-inspiringly great, but really good.)

That's not a recommendation, AMD CPU's are often frowned upon by real gamers, and with good reasons. But if you don't care about high-end graphics, like to play older titles and need a decent, affordable PC for other stuff too, it's something that works quite well.

I do have an illuminated gaming keyboard & mouse combo (bought for typing and graphics, actually, not for gaming), which is an unnecessary personal luxury, and a HOTAS (T-Flight for now, X-52 or -52 Pro or -55 soon) I only bought for Elite. I'd recommend having one, though keyboard and stick (HOWASDAS) works very well, too. Can't speak for gamepads/dual flightsticks/keyboard & mouse.
 
I can run it on a 2012 Laptop with a not so great, but quite decent at the 1Gb Gforce card. Everything is pretty much on low and I get a decent frame rate and still looks quite good. temping to upgrade... but you know, it works!
 
I can run it on a 2012 Laptop with a not so great, but quite decent at the 1Gb Gforce card. Everything is pretty much on low and I get a decent frame rate and still looks quite good. temping to upgrade... but you know, it works!

I run it on an AMD FX-6300, with an R7 260X GPU (2GB), 4 GB RAM, Win 7 Pro 64 on a small SSD. Probably doable for 400-500 USD without peripherals.

It's definitely NOT a dedicated gaming PC - it's my home office workhorse - but Elite runs perfectly smooth with the preset high graphic settings in 1920x1080 and still looks good. (Good, not awe-inspiringly great, but really good.)

That's not a recommendation, AMD CPU's are often frowned upon by real gamers, and with good reasons. But if you don't care about high-end graphics, like to play older titles and need a decent, affordable PC for other stuff too, it's something that works quite well.

I do have an illuminated gaming keyboard & mouse combo (bought for typing and graphics, actually, not for gaming), which is an unnecessary personal luxury, and a HOTAS (T-Flight for now, X-52 or -52 Pro or -55 soon) I only bought for Elite. I'd recommend having one, though keyboard and stick (HOWASDAS) works very well, too. Can't speak for gamepads/dual flightsticks/keyboard & mouse.

Thank you both now I can start norowing the search drastically with this info. Why's AMD frowned upon?
 
Maybe "frowned upon" was a poor choice of words - high-end Intel CPUs simply outperform AMD. But for performance per dollar at the lower end of the budget, and work as well as play, AMD's multicores are actually very good.

As for GPUs, someone else would have to answer that. I bought mine after reading tons of tests for cards in my price range, not because I know much about it. :)
 
Hey, I know where you are coming from. And if you need a pc for dedicated art/graphics schoolwork - I can guarentee you that youll need majority of the same things for the schoolwork that youll need for gaming. Many of the core requirements to do your work are the same reqs for gaming. I would recommend a minium of 6gb ram, windows 7 64bit, an i5 processor, and a 1.5gb video card - That would be the minimum do run everything you need smoothly, but here's the catch...how long do you want your pc to last? If your not worried about always being able to play the newest, latest and greatest games then youll be fine for at least 4-5 years worth of *new* games. This setup will also play starcraft 2 pretty good as well.

So, the end decision in how much you want to spend comes down to how long do you want the pc to last? Most consumer pcs arent meant to go above 5 years of great effieciency *with many exceptions to this rule*

Another consideration, do you want it to be a laptop or a desktop? Some laptops let you upgrade a little bit, so you can skimp in some areas first, then just upgrade more when you have more money. Desktops, anything can be upgraded (within the limits of the components like the motherboard, number of ram slots etc.)

Last consideration - There are websites that let you build your gaming rig...basically, you select a base model, and click options to upgrade or downgrade different aspects of the computer - many of them you can get a great machine for a good price. The most important part though is that many of them you can set up a 1 year (or whatever) interest free payment plan. I would ONLY do this if you trust yourself to make the payments, but Ive done this once myself and it worked great. Didnt have to shell out 2k right away, made it in monthly payments for 1 year instead.

So, research, research, research, daydream about buying the best hardware money can buy for 8k lmao, then research research research :D
 
I'd recommend making your own PC if you're up for it. It will save you $ and allow you to get the most bang for your buck. You need to do a little research, finding out which graphics cards fit which motherboards etc., but once you've done that you can start browsing through eBay for parts. eBay can get you some really good deals, as people upgrade their system and sell old parts on. A lot of parts I bought were apparently only used for a few months, and I got almost half-price value on some stuff. I made my own PC about 2 years ago for around $600, and it can run Elite on High graphic settings now.

Actually making the PC is pretty easy if you ever had Lego or Technic as a kid. Just don't force anything. If something is not slotting in, take your time to find out why. If you force something it might break.

Most expensive parts for me were RAM (can't/shouldn't really get that 2nd hand) and the case (I bought a new one).
 
Maybe "frowned upon" was a poor choice of words - high-end Intel CPUs simply outperform AMD. But for performance per dollar at the lower end of the budget, and work as well as play, AMD's multicores are actually very good.

As for GPUs, someone else would have to answer that. I bought mine after reading tons of tests for cards in my price range, not because I know much about it. :)

Unfortunately that's not really true. AMD chips are cheaper, this is true, but there is a larger gap between their benchmarks and Intel benchmarks than there is between their price and Intel's price. Basically - they are less powerful than they are cheap, so they're not really good at price-per-dollar either. It's a crazy thing - all AMD did was fire their best engineers and now they're having a lot of trouble designing chips!

In general, low-end Intel chips get the nod over AMD. See:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/the-ars-system-guides-gaming-boxes-december-2014/2/

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html
 
Though, if you're just getting and basic gaming rig together, AMD or Intel really shouldn't be a factor. My point being, it wont impact your enjoyment
 
Are you trying to make the point that the game will not run worse with a less-powerful processor, or that you won't have less fun if the game runs worse?
 
Here have a look see at this link, it's for linus tech tips and it goes into exactly what you're after.....building a budget gaming rig.

Obviously you're going to need to do some research into the matter, but hey, you've got an entire forum here willing to help. :D

Oh and the GPU is the thing that is going to make the most difference to you, I'm a massive Nvidia fan. I currently own the 970 and will probably save up for the titan X1 as I am stupid. but I know at the moment the best bang for buck is the AMD R9 200 (it's comparable with my 970 but at a vastly reduced price.)

Good luck.
 
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