i7 8700K looking good!

Gortron · Oct 5, 2017

Hi fellow ED VR lovers!

I know there are a few of us in here that are looking to upgrade our CPUs in an effort to improve our VR experience and it looks like our prayers may have been answered!

This really looks very promising indeed... enjoy

[video=youtube_share;CZIVaGcax70]https://youtu.be/CZIVaGcax70[/video]

Dibiase · Oct 5, 2017

It it defiantly a great CPU but I don't see it having much affect on VR performance. VR and 4K are still limited by GPU processing not the CPU. That's why all these CPU benchmarks run the game test in 1080P so they can force the bottleneck to the CPU. At 4K and VR resolutions it won't make much difference over the last few CPU generations.

Wasp0 · Oct 5, 2017

Dibiase said:
It it defiantly a great CPU but I don't see it having much affect on VR performance. VR and 4K are still limited by GPU processing not the CPU. That's why all these CPU benchmarks run the game test in 1080P so they can force the bottleneck to the CPU. At 4K and VR resolutions it won't make much difference over the last few CPU generations.

For gaming performance, and at least a hundred of your finest notes cheaper, consider the Kaby Lake 7700K.

Guest104505 · Oct 5, 2017

The time when I needed to buy a new CPU every few years is over. I replaced my old graphics card and the screen, I bought SSDs, I added new RAM but my i5-2400 works nicely and will probably still be relatively up-to-date for 5 more years.

Pville_Piper · Oct 5, 2017

Dibiase said:
It it defiantly a great CPU but I don't see it having much affect on VR performance. VR and 4K are still limited by GPU processing not the CPU. That's why all these CPU benchmarks run the game test in 1080P so they can force the bottleneck to the CPU. At 4K and VR resolutions it won't make much difference over the last few CPU generations.

The main reason to use 1080p is that you are trying show what the CPU can do and it takes the GPU out of the equation.

ToBeFree said:
The time when I needed to buy a new CPU every few years is over. I replaced my old graphics card and the screen, I bought SSDs, I added new RAM but my i5-2400 works nicely and will probably still be relatively up-to-date for 5 more years.

Depends on what you are trying to do. I thought the same until Battlefield 1 came out. I had to upgrade to an I7 to get good performance and maintain +100 FPS. I also run a 144hz monitor.

dape · Oct 5, 2017

it is a nice CPU but absolutely not necessary to upgrade form Kaby or Skylake to get better VR performance.

Guest104505 · Oct 5, 2017

Pville_Piper said:
[...] I had to upgrade to an I7 to get good performance and maintain +100 FPS. [...]

Upgrade from... an i7 that has cost the same before? Because that's what I mean: Upgrading to a new model in the same price category seems to be completely unneeded even after many years. :/

Asp Explorer · Oct 5, 2017

While I'm sure it's a fine CPU - you'll have to pry my 6850k out of my cold, dead hands

Pville_Piper · Oct 6, 2017

ToBeFree said:
Upgrade from... an i7 that has cost the same before? Because that's what I mean: Upgrading to a new model in the same price category seems to be completely unneeded even after many years. :/

No, I had to upgrade to an I7... I had an I5 3570k. I tried overclocking it but I still had issues and was still running 100% utilization on all 4 cores. Upgraded to my I7 6700K and utilization went down to between 60 and 70% with everything running butter smooth.

Pville_Piper · Oct 6, 2017

dape said:
it is a nice CPU but absolutely not necessary to upgrade form Kaby or Skylake to get better VR performance.

it would have been nice to see if they had done that. Still, a 25% increase on a fair amount of title is a lot. The usual is about 10% max, and I do mean max. It would depend on what you need. If your running a 60 hz monitor and with max settings at 60 fps then no, it would be a waste of money. Unfortunately, he didn't show what it could do with higher resolutions or VR. I get why he did 1080p, just why stop there?

Mot · Oct 6, 2017

I watched a few reviews last night for curiosity's sake. It seems to be pushing more frames than the 7700K by squeezing more out of the GPU. It's a beast.

Gortron · Oct 6, 2017

Dibiase said:
It it defiantly a great CPU but I don't see it having much affect on VR performance. VR and 4K are still limited by GPU processing not the CPU. That's why all these CPU benchmarks run the game test in 1080P so they can force the bottleneck to the CPU. At 4K and VR resolutions it won't make much difference over the last few CPU generations.

I'm on ye olde i5 4670K and inexplicably get 100% CPU use from time to time in ED while in VR that does hit my frame rates. If I was on a more recent i7 I doubt it would be worth it but it looks like a big leap all around from what I currently have... well I hope it is anyway.

Mot said:
I watched a few reviews last night for curiosity's sake. It seems to be pushing more frames than the 7700K by squeezing more out of the GPU. It's a beast.

Yeah it sure is.

Frank · Oct 6, 2017

Asp Explorer said:
While I'm sure it's a fine CPU - you'll have to pry my 6850k out of my cold, dead hands

You shouldn't need to pry it out if your cold, dead hands are fitted with a zif socket

Dean Demon · Oct 6, 2017

Just wait until you get an i9 then things will really rock.

Strife · Oct 6, 2017

Try actually buying a Coffee Lake I7 today!
This is a paper lunch by intel for marketing reasons.

Herbrand · Oct 6, 2017

Lol, another Intel CPU that is not backward-compatible with previous chipsets. What's their excuse this time? Ah yes, DDR4 memory. Right...

TorTorden_VR · Oct 6, 2017

Herbrand said:
Lol, another Intel CPU that is not backward-compatible with previous chipsets. What's their excuse this time? Ah yes, DDR4 memory. Right...

Do you seriously think they could go from four to six physical cores without changing the pins ?
Only dumb thing is they keep the 1151 nomenclature.
These are totally different cpus and boards internally with far more active pins than their 7th generation counterparts.

Strife · Oct 6, 2017

Yeah they need to drive more electricity through the same physical LGA 1151 socket, as these will be out for December, might make good heaters.

I found this interesting: Tech Talk - Forza 7 Benchmarks & Coffee Lake Paper Launch - https://youtu.be/Ij95GtRg07g

TorTorden_VR · Oct 6, 2017

Strife said:
Yeah they need to drive more electricity through the same physical LGA 1151 socket, as these will be out for December, might make good heaters.

I found this interesting: Tech Talk - Forza 7 Benchmarks & Coffee Lake Paper Launch - https://youtu.be/Ij95GtRg07g

Less than you think they manage this with only adding 4 watts to the TDP compared with the 7700k.
Intel may very well be the a great evil and all that but they continue to impress me with this.

As for heating. My GPU sees to that with a TDP of practically 300watts.

Aekero · Oct 6, 2017

I was about to post something about this today as well, as I often get throttled by cpu with elite with an i5 skylake, even with a healthy overclock. From what I've heard an i7 is much better for elite (at least vr), and so I imagine an overclocked i7 kaby would be absolutely fine, it'll most likely never max out with elite (although if someone with these settings could tell me I'd love to know)

coffee lake seems more about future proofing, may be overkill for elite right now