If a clean commander interdicts you, do you have to wait for them to fire until you can shoot ‘em

Drelthar

Drelthar
Dietger said:
And why would you do that?
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To remove the goods from their cargo hold, and get rid of them in an enemy system. However, you need to be able to check if it is worth committing a crime in your home system to protect it. If the interdiction itself gave you a bounty, you couldn't even check cargo holds legally.

This is just one random example of the many things fine only interdictions allow, if you think beyond just killing everyone.

Morbad said:
I don't agree. Even if the prevailing legal system in Elite isn't the same as any particular real-world example, analogies are still useful for pointing out absurdities and comparisons make sense as long as appropriate context is maintained.



Reasonable and legal are often very different things, no matter what world we are talking about.

As far as the game goes, I'd make interdiction of clean targets by those without police powers a bounty offence in most jurisdictions. I'd also think it would be illegal to KWS or cargo scan clean targets in many.

Of course it would be reasonable to factions to delegate police powers to certain CMDRs that were a part of them, or allied with them.
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Ratrees said:
Or just introduce the concept of a police licence at allied status with the ruling faction in that system.

Undertaking a routine stop and search in “your” sectors would be fine then.

Shooting the interdictee unwarranted is still a crime and results in loss of rep and your licence being revoked.

Ninja’d!
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Yes, that would be the ideal solution in my mind as well. But it might potentially make things more stringent and less free, and potentially limit peoples creativity. The way it is, allows people to come up with all kinds of things to do using the systems in place.
 

Ratrees

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Novo Mundus said:
Yes, that would be the ideal solution in my mind as well. But it might potentially make things more stringent and less free, and potentially limit peoples creativity. The way it is, allows people to come up with all kinds of things to do using the systems in place.
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Just expanding the police licence thought further, to prevent griefing through multiple unwarranted interdictions, once scanned by someone who holds a police licence in that sector, they’re given a “Clean” flag until they next dock or leave the system, it’s the opposite of a “wanted” flag. That protects them, indeed could even boost the system force response time if they are then attacked, and interdicting a “clean” CMDR results in a fine, minor loss of rep and possibly your police licence if you do it multiple times.
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
Has this changed? I distinctly remember getting a bounty on my head for interdicting a mission target. This is a very long time ago but I do remember, as soon as the tether went on I got a big notice about getting a bounty. This was a pirate lord that had jumped into another system where they must have not been "wanted", I followed, stuck on a tether and got the bounty. (Never bothered fitting a FSI since then.)
 

Factabulous

Factabulous
Para Handy said:
Has this changed? I distinctly remember getting a bounty on my head for interdicting a mission target. This is a very long time ago but I do remember, as soon as the tether went on I got a big notice about getting a bounty. This was a pirate lord that had jumped into another system where they must have not been "wanted", I followed, stuck on a tether and got the bounty. (Never bothered fitting a FSI since then.)
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The OP was wanted, pretty sure you are ok interdicting wanted CMDRs.

Apologies if you are asking about more recent posts - it went a bit off the rails, so I stopped following.
 

Miko

M
If some muppet decides to interdict you, expect that he might also be intending to fry you. So deploy weapons and nuke that clown.

If they're rude enough to attack a clean target first and you become wanted for shooting back because they have their crimes on, then make it your full time job to nuke said muppet everywhere muppet is seen. Bounty can be cleaned in a nearby system, worst case.
 

Sylveria

Sylveria
Given that not submitting to interdiction DOES cause damage to your vessel- I'd like to see interdiction of CLEAN CMDRs made into a criminal action.

Only makes sense that if I throw caltrops into a busy highway- I'd be charged with a crime for doing so.

Make the KWS available to use from SC, and make interdiction of clean CMDRs a crime. That'll make things much more interesting.
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
Yep agree.

For my immurshon :)D) I'd like to see:

- getting a fine for not submitting to a security/military interdiction (to both evading and fighting and losing)
- switching to get a bounty for interdicting clean CMDRs
(- KWS in SC is good, as well as manifest scanner)

(both should at least apply to medium/high sec systems)
 

Brrokk

Brrokk
Bigmaec said:
Yep agree.

For my immurshon :)D) I'd like to see:

- getting a fine for not submitting to a security/military interdiction (to both evading and fighting and losing)
- switching to get a bounty for interdicting clean CMDRs
(- KWS in SC is good, as well as manifest scanner)

(both should at least apply to medium/high sec systems)
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I agree, providing the security guys tell you to "Stop for authorised security scan" in comms. I'm not sure they do that ATM.

Of course, pirates might start impersonating them. That would be fun. :)
 
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