If I self-destruct will I ....

[Blueged]

If I self-destruct will I lose all the exploration data I have collected both with the advanced discovery scanner and a surface scanner?

I am finishing up my Palin 5000 ly trek and wondering if just self-destructing after I hit the 5K ly mark or turning around and flying back. I know if I self-destruct I would not be able to get the return leg scanned and that would be worth additional credits.

I find it rather boring and repetitive although I could scan more planets on the way but it is taking longer than I figured it would.

Not sure if I will self-destruct but just wondered what my options are. Flying an asp so the re buy is not a big factor.

 

[Madrax573]

yes you lose it.

It would kind of break exploration risk if you could just fly out, blow yourself up and return to get a big payout IMO.

 

[Sonof Hibachi]

You will lose all your data, but you will still have travelled 5000ly from Palin. And as a chap who suicided half way to Colonia, I feel your pain!

Ninja'd!

 

[Jackie Silver]

Yes. Depending on which direction you have gone, there may be a surface base or asteroid base near your location where you could sell the data before you cheat. Um, I mean, before you use suicide as a fast travel option.

Anyhoo. Have a look around for nearby bases. Map in my signature's got them if you like.

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

Yes. Depending on which direction you have gone, there may be a surface base or asteroid base near your location where you could sell the data before you cheat. Um, I mean, before you use suicide as a fast travel option.

Anyhoo. Have a look around for nearby bases. Map in my signature's got them if you like.

If he lands on an asteroid base, that becomes his "last save" where he would spawn once he self destructs. So this is useless for him.

 

[BDelacroix]

If he lands on an asteroid base, that becomes his "last save" where he would spawn once he self destructs. So this is useless for him.

Well, you do it in two phases. You die, then you take the freewinder.

 

[marx]

And if the asteroid base doesn't have a shipyard (fairly certain that wherever the OP is out at 5,000 ly distance, there isn't one within 2,000 ly) to store your old ship in, then you'll lose your old ship if you take the free Sidewinder. As in permanently gone, with no way of getting it back. If you've engineered your ship, I would not recommend it.

 

[Straha Yeagar]

Just bite the bullet and fly the 5kly back, keep the easy money and exploration rank, with the realization that exploration is just not for you...

 

[mtt9999 [Parabolus]]

Just bite the bullet and fly the 5kly back, keep the easy money and exploration rank, with the realization that exploration is just not for you...

Yeh with the faster jump times in 2.3, even with a 30ly range you could do 5,000ly in 2 hours.

 

[Blueged]

Thanks all. I was just curious. I will not be self destructing. Not going to lose all the explorer data and rise in explorer rank.

However when self destructing you don't have to go to a sidewinder, you are given a choice of re buying your current ship. Having done so at Quince I self destructed a few times and did not lose my scan data missions, but I believe if they were CZ or bounty vouchers I would have lost them.

Now I have to decide where to sell the data. I would want fraction where I want to have a cordial relationship/friendly from neutral. I think if I sell to Palin I get one grade raise? Or do I have to have 25 units of Unknown Fragments first to sell the data to him?

 

[Major Klutz]

If you're bored exploring, skip the scanning part. Just honk with the ADS on the way out.
Jump, Jump, Jump, refuel, Jump ... Jumping every 45 seconds, you can cover 1000Ly in 20-30 min depending on your ship.

Yeah, not sure if Palin buys exploration data but if so, it's the same as with Felicity and Elvira, you have to meet the initial requirement to even talk with them before you can sell the data.

The sidewinder option (often used in Colonia) requires you to store your current ship and buy a sidewinder. Then self destruct and chose not to re-buy, but take the free sidewinder which will return you to your starting location.
Then of course you have to pay to transfer your other ship or fly back to get it.

Deep space outpost locations can be seen here. https://www.edsm.net/en/galactic-mapping#4/1720/0/-1720|deepSpaceOutpost
If there's anything near you, you could sell your data there before continuing your trip back.

Yeh with the faster jump times in 2.3, even with a 30ly range you could do 5,000ly in 2 hours.

I haven't noticed faster jump times in 2.3
It's still 43 seconds between jumps (without refueling), just as before. Isn't it?

In my 51Ly asp, where I am, it's about 22 jumps per 1000Ly. If I take into account fueling time with a leisurely pace of ~1 minute average between jumps, it's 22 minutes per 1000Ly, or 5KLy in ~1.8Hrs.
A 30Ly ship would be at least 34 jumps per 1000Ly or 5KLy in ~2.8Hrs. Or less depending on fuel scoop size and how attentive you can remain for that amount of time.

 

[newman1702]

However when self destructing you don't have to go to a sidewinder, you are given a choice of re buying your current ship.

We all know that. The point is, if you docked to some deep space outpost outside the bubble, self destructing would always send you back to that oupost, not the bubble, as it always sends you to the last port you docked at. That is unless you take the freewinder instead of your current ship which I believe sends you back to your original starter system (where you were when you first started playing the game) back in the bubble. However the price of this instant teleport to the bubble is basically losing your ship, so doing that for measly 5kly would be kinda silly. Glad you've decided to fly back. Just burn without scanning if you're that bored, 5kly isn't really that much.

 

[ArchEmperor]

Remember that you have 10's of millions in exploration data, its good money!

Also, in future updates, having your name on worlds can make a huge difference and give you very interesting advantages.

That is why Elite is so interesting. It is a story being unfolded, and updated forever.

 

[Sapporo]

Just bite the bullet and fly the 5kly back, keep the easy money and exploration rank, with the realization that exploration is just not for you...

Was gonna say something like that so I'll just quote this. Who knows, maybe you'll get a few millions since 2.3 payouts are now great!

 

[Friedenreich Xante]

Also, in future updates, having your name on worlds can make a huge difference and give you very interesting advantages.

Can you elaborate on this, please? This is the first time I read this. What additional advantages should we get from having our name on stellar bodies?

 

[Blueged]

Little unclear why you can't just self destruct (without docking somewhere out there) and just re buy your current ship and end up where you last docked? In this case, in the bubble.
I'm not going to self destruct since I would lose all my explorer data but I don't see why that wouldn't work.

If you're bored exploring, skip the scanning part. Just honk with the ADS on the way out.
Jump, Jump, Jump, refuel, Jump ... Jumping every 45 seconds, you can cover 1000Ly in 20-30 min depending on your ship.

Yeah, not sure if Palin buys exploration data but if so, it's the same as with Felicity and Elvira, you have to meet the initial requirement to even talk with them before you can sell the data.

The sidewinder option (often used in Colonia) requires you to store your current ship and buy a sidewinder. Then self destruct and chose not to re-buy, but take the free sidewinder which will return you to your starting location.
Then of course you have to pay to transfer your other ship or fly back to get it.

Deep space outpost locations can be seen here. https://www.edsm.net/en/galactic-mapping#4/1720/0/-1720|deepSpaceOutpost
If there's anything near you, you could sell your data there before continuing your trip back.


I haven't noticed faster jump times in 2.3
It's still 43 seconds between jumps (without refueling), just as before. Isn't it?

In my 51Ly asp, where I am, it's about 22 jumps per 1000Ly. If I take into account fueling time with a leisurely pace of ~1 minute average between jumps, it's 22 minutes per 1000Ly, or 5KLy in ~1.8Hrs.
A 30Ly ship would be at least 34 jumps per 1000Ly or 5KLy in ~2.8Hrs. Or less depending on fuel scoop size and how attentive you can remain for that amount of time.

 

[Major Klutz]

Little unclear why you can't just self destruct (without docking somewhere out there) and just re buy your current ship and end up where you last docked? In this case, in the bubble.
I'm not going to self destruct since I would lose all my explorer data but I don't see why that wouldn't work.

You could do that. The sidewinder option was suggested as a way for you to sell your data at a deep space outpost before you self destructed. Assuming there is an outpost anywhere near you and also assuming it has a shipyard. Otherwise, a self destruct would return you to that deep space outpost instead of the bubble.

 

[Blueged]

You could do that. The sidewinder option was suggested as a way for you to sell your data at a deep space outpost before you self destructed. Assuming there is an outpost anywhere near you and also assuming it has a shipyard. Otherwise, a self destruct would return you to that deep space outpost instead of the bubble.

I see, thanks.

 

[ArchEmperor]

Can you elaborate on this, please? This is the first time I read this. What additional advantages should we get from having our name on stellar bodies?

The short answer: I don't know. But this is a game under development, and FD do want to add more exploration and more exploration data advantages ( not just credits and getting your name on it ), they are just taking the slow and methodical approach.

To say the opposite, that exploration would be or is useless, would be false. Of course FD will improve the way exploration data and name tagging works, it is why we still are playing this game, we know they are going to add stuff, isn't it?

One day your worlds, the ones you found, will have your name clearly visible for all to see. And maybe, you have the ability to choose what is going to happen to some of them.

I can think of at least one advantage of getting your name on a world: possible ownership with DLC content for your favorite world you discovered. Including personal outposts, bases and even larger stations.

 

[Electric Kite]

Yeh with the faster jump times in 2.3, even with a 30ly range you could do 5,000ly in 2 hours.

Source?

30 ly jump range and 5,000 ly in just 2 hours? This number seems waaaaay off. Even if using the neutron highway. You have to factor in refueling and re dicrecting course to find scoopable stars when youre running low. And you do run low.

More like 5 hours. And thats if youre doing well.