"If [Nova Imperium controlled Empire doesn't fund Aegis], Federation would be forced to intervene"

"If [Nova Imperium controlled Empire doesn't fund Aegis], Federation would be forced to intervene"

https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/5c25f681d168ed7b261155b2

The leaders of the Alliance and the Federation have commented on the rise of the isolationist group Nova Imperium.

Prime Minister Edmund Mahon told the Alliance Assembly:

“The civil unrest in the Empire is an internal matter, but it would be a major concern if it resulted in a policy change regarding inter-superpower cooperation. We are therefore watching the situation closely.”

In Congress, President Zachary Hudson said:

“If Nova Imperium comes to power and the Empire ceases contributions to Aegis, our combined defences against the Thargoid threat will be jeopardised. In such a case, the Federation would be forced to intervene in order to safeguard humanity’s future.

Independent sources have confirmed that Federal Navy resupplies have increased in frequency. Fleet manoeuvres have also taken place in regions bordering Imperial territory.

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Forget the Thargoids. An Imperial vs Federation war would be far more interesting.
 
If some of the wilder tinfoil hattery from the early days of the Thargoid incursion has any truth behind it, I would expect a sudden uptick in Thargoid activity in Imperial space until such time as a more co-operative regime took control of Imperial space.
 
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if this means the return of the old school CGs ala War for Lugh I'm all for it.

Actually I say CGs, but I don't think we've had anything else like Lugh either before or after.
 
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If some of the wilder tinfoil hattery from the early days of the Thargoid incursion has any truth behind it, I would expect a sudden uptick in Thargoid activity in Imperial space until such time as a more co-operative regime took control of Imperial space.

More cooperative than the current Emperor? Not sure if that is possible.

There is only potentially a problem if Nova Imperium takes over. Something that isn't going to happen unless for some strange reason they manage to overthrow the current Emperor. The chances of Nova Imperium a civil war in the Empire are probably rather small.

BTW, does anybody remember Emperor's Dawn?
 
The threat doesn't really make sense though. 'If Nova Imperium comes to power... we'll intervene..." Wouldn't it be much more prudent to intervene before they come to power? Doesn't really make sense to go to war with a newly isolationist Empire at the same time as the Thargoids, and 'intervening' isn't exactly going to get the contributions flowing again.

That aside, it's ridiculous that the Emperor hasn't said anything yet. Even ' Delaine (edit: not Delaine, Mahon. I think I just dreamt that) has an opinion, but the Emperor herself just stays silent and does nothing. That also aside, the Empire is not a democracy. Every one of these idiots who support NI, from senators to slaves, would've been executed for treason a long time ago.

BTW, does anybody remember Emperor's Dawn?

I remember we stomped them into the ground immediately because no one had any interest in them at all. Not sure why Fdev is recycling it...
 
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The threat doesn't really make sense though. 'If Nova Imperium comes to power... we'll intervene..." Wouldn't it be much more prudent to intervene before they come to power? Doesn't really make sense to go to war with a newly isolationist Empire at the same time as the Thargoids, and 'intervening' isn't exactly going to get the contributions flowing again.

Intervene too early and it would unite the Empire against the Federation. It would also strengthen Nova Imperium's hand as in "See? You can't trust non-Imperial scum" :)

Nobody likes outsiders to meddle in what would be considered an internal matter
 
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They'd like it a whole lot less if the Feds tried to interfere with a sitting Emperor. The whole thing is a bit senseless. If the Feds wanted to intervene so badly, they should just send an assassin to nip this in the bud and then play dumb. But then, the Emperor should've had a ball pit's worth of heads severed already. Shrug. I hope the writers are working up to something interesting with this. I don't really get what they're aiming for. Maybe that Arissa is weak or compromised, but there's no lore or foreshadowing for that, and Aisling already fills that role.
 
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The way I read that statement by Hudson is

"Listen Up Nova Imperium, we like the current Emperor more than we like you, they are helping us in the fight with the Thargoid; if you are stupid enough to try to overthrown the current Imperial House and threaten a civil war whilst the rest of us are trying to fight off the Thargoid, well then, we will just have to step in a help crush you first,"

So as a way to help with the Stability in the Empire by letting the other side know who the Federation will support, as opposed to staying out of it.

The Status quo benefits the Federation by benefit Aegis
 
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personally I'm more confused by this one (https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/5c2e309ca8a0960bd50880a5):

"An open order for military supplies has been placed on behalf of the Federal Navy by the League of Zearla. A spokesperson for the organisation gave the following statement:

“The Federal Navy urgently requires shipments of Battle Weapons, Landmines and Performance Enhancers to be delivered to Payson Hub in the Zearla system.”

A parallel operation is being run by Imperial faction the Sirsir Co, which announced:

“The Imperial Navy’s logistics division has authorised us to process deliveries of Battle Weapons, Reactive Armour and Imperial Slaves. The drop-off point is Mitchell Hangar in the Sirsir system.”

Both initiatives begin on the 3rd of January 3305 and will run for one week. If either initiative meets its targets earlier than planned, that campaign will end immediately."


Ok, both sides are re-arming for unknown reasons, but why would you stop one if the opposition win? I can't imagine the imps just deciding "Oh, the Feds got their supplies, we might as well stop", or vice verse.
 
personally I'm more confused by this one (https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/5c2e309ca8a0960bd50880a5):

"An open order for military supplies has been placed on behalf of the Federal Navy by the League of Zearla. A spokesperson for the organisation gave the following statement:

“The Federal Navy urgently requires shipments of Battle Weapons, Landmines and Performance Enhancers to be delivered to Payson Hub in the Zearla system.”

A parallel operation is being run by Imperial faction the Sirsir Co, which announced:

“The Imperial Navy’s logistics division has authorised us to process deliveries of Battle Weapons, Reactive Armour and Imperial Slaves. The drop-off point is Mitchell Hangar in the Sirsir system.”

Both initiatives begin on the 3rd of January 3305 and will run for one week. If either initiative meets its targets earlier than planned, that campaign will end immediately."


Ok, both sides are re-arming for unknown reasons, but why would you stop one if the opposition win? I can't imagine the imps just deciding "Oh, the Feds got their supplies, we might as well stop", or vice verse.


If either initiative meets its targets earlier than planned, that campaign will end immediately.

Ie if an initiative meets its target earlier than planned the campaign will end, this applies to either

Not if one meets the target, both end

However Both factions are Federal, so, a joint effort?
 
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It's not the what that's confusing, its the why. :) Though I imagine it's just a copy and paste a template without proof reading situation. Edit: Unless they do actually end it. Then it proper doesn't make sense.
 
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I love how in Galnet the Federation still talks as if they have a meaningful influence on the galaxy/bubble, when in reality...

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Wouldnt it behoove the Federation first to get their own house in order?
 
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They're trying to set the stage for another terrible, already done CG, and give FedRat players a legitimate way of meddling in the internal affairs of the Empire.

PS: Hudson's FedRat fleets entering Empire space is a full blown invasion, not an intervention. Federal presence hasn't been welcome in Imperial space since they attacked in 2324. Though I'm sure some halfwit at FDEV will bend the lore until it works with their bad story Arc.
 
I love how in Galnet the Federation still talks as if they have a meaningful influence on the galaxy/bubble, when in reality...



Wouldnt it behoove the Federation first to get their own house in order?

Huh, that's interesting. Are there any simple reasons for the very obvious shift to independent systems?
 
Huh, that's interesting. Are there any simple reasons for the very obvious shift to independent systems?

Two words: Power play. Each leader needs certain government types in their control spheres in order to lower how much it costs to fortify basically.

However some idiot decided that some of the powers would require governments not available within their super-power. So you have Hudson supporting Independent patronages, Aisling supporting Independent communists, etc.

Not kidding, if you play Hudson, at some point you must start kicking Federatiom democracies out of power to replace them with totalitarian independent regimes.

What you see on the clever AEDC graph (that's posted in every other thread), is about 200 cycles of mostly power play damage done to the galaxy.
 
Huh, that's interesting. Are there any simple reasons for the very obvious shift to independent systems?
In addition to Powerplay, there's also the effect of PMFs and the way that Federal systems are distributed.

Federal systems - at the start of the game, anyway - were spread out over the entire bubble intermingled with independent (and Alliance) systems. Imperial systems were in a much more compact and homogenous sub-region.

More PMFs are independent than anything else - especially the big ones. So as PMFs are founded and expand, there's a good chance that they'll be taking over some Federal systems along the way - whereas the Empire is probably only getting nibbled away at the edges, almost all Federal systems are potentially vulnerable.
 
I love how in Galnet the Federation still talks as if they have a meaningful influence on the galaxy/bubble, when in reality...



Wouldnt it behoove the Federation first to get their own house in order?

Considering we have about 1/3rd the population of alliance players, 1/10th the population of independent players and probably about 2/3rds the number of Empire players, we're doing pretty well. How are things in LHS 2494 and Ross 128? ;)
 
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