Community Event / Creation If you have not yet tried Trade Computer Extension (TCE) by Eventure, you're missing out bigtime

This post applies even to the traders who hate using 3rd party tools and crowdsourced data, and who would prefer to do trading the "honest" way or "in the spirit of the game".

This post ALSO applies to the people who hate trading entirely. Read that again: even if you HATE trading, you should check out TCE, because it might change how you feel about trading.

Finally, this post ALSO applies to the hard-core traders who are already happy using 3rd party tools like Slopey's BPC and Trade Dangerous.

Why do I make these claims? Because I want people to be more happy with the game and feel like they can get their goals accomplished with minimal pain. The more people that are happy, the more money FD makes, and therefore the more improvements we see to the game at a faster pace. Truly, my motives are ultimately selfish, lol. I just want ED to be around and grow because I like it a lot.

Seriously, though, trading is currently the main path to money and achieving many of these goals: even if those goals are only to afford and maintain bigger/better combat craft loadouts for pirating or bounty hunting, and even if those goals are only to pay for the cost of repairing/replacing your ship after exploration mishaps. At some level, everyone needs to trade right now, but many players rightfully resent that fact and avoid trading because it bores them to tears.

So what the heck does TCE have to do with making people of all tastes so happy?

TCE is a screen overlay tool that appears to be a seamless part of the game UI. No more alt-tabbing to look at external tools, spreadsheets, text files, etc. Stay in the game all the time. It feels like the in-game trade computer interface most of us have asked for at one time or another.

TCE integrates EliteOCR seamlessly into itself. You _never_ have to fiddle with OCR directly. You _never_ have to take manual screenshots. Instead, you just push one button in TCE itself when you're in the Commodities screen of ED. Done!

It gives power traders nearly all the essentials they need. Sure, there are some times you might still go to Slopey's or whatever to do a search/filter that TCE can't do, but TCE covers the 90% use case for hardcore traders just fine. The only thing you give up (kinda) is crowdsourced data, which brings me to...

TCE gives the "honest" players who feel it's cheating or "too easy" to use third party tools a way to enjoy nearly all of the same benefits the power traders have enjoyed, BUT WITHOUT "cheating". Why? Because by default TCE uses a private database that only you can populate and only you can see. Honestly, the really advanced power traders want this private data too. Most of the other good tools force you to crowdshare your data. Not TCE. For the "honest" players, all that TCE does is take the 14th century manual bookkeeping and note-taking out of the game, and slap you squarely in the 34th century, with tools that make sense when you're flying multi-million credit ships dozens of lightyears in a few minutes.

TCE enables you to roleplay a "trader explorer", which is something the game itself does NOT do well at present. When you see how fast and easy and immersive TCE is for yourself, you'll quickly realize that it's actually an enjoyable impetus to explore every system in your current vicinity. Instead of staring at planets and other system bodies and selling the exploration data for relative peanuts, with TCE every system you explore can yield new stations and their commodity data that you can add to your ever growing personal library of trade data. The more you explore, the more trading option you open for yourself and the more money you can make in a VARIETY of "trading styles", not just grind-monkey speedruns between two stations over and over and over and over...

I'm going to stop here, and urge you to look at the guide I wrote specifically for TCE (it's the yellow link below in my sig block). It will give you TONS of details about how TCE works, what it can do, and how it can support the trading techniques I explain in my trading guide (the orange link below in my sig block).

And if the fact that TCE requires Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Access makes you balk and want to instantly reply "It sux because I don't have and cannot afford", my guide explains near the top that you can subscribe to Office 365 for only $9.99 a month, and you can even run a free trial for a while. That free trial will let you at least try out TCE for yourself and see for yourself.

Anyway, just a pro trader tip I wanted to throw out there. I love TCE and have it on pretty much all the time now except when all I'm doing is bounty hunting.
 
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Updated the OP with something I forgot in the original post yesterday. One of the things I like about TCE is that it makes working with EliteOCR completely painless.
 
And if the fact that TCE requires Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Access makes you balk and want to instantly reply "It sux because I don't have and cannot afford", my guide explains near the top that you can subscribe to Office 365 for only $9.99 a month, and you can even run a free trial for a while. That free trial will let you at least try out TCE for yourself and see for yourself.

I would be interested in such a tool, but no I won't be paying for an MS Office which I wouldn't use for any other purpose. There exist free database and spreadsheet softwares.
 
Do you know if TCE will work with older versions of Microsoft Office... I think I have an older version of Office (2007 or 2010) at home that I can install to try this out. I really like the idea of TCE and the additional meta-game features that it offers... I've never used an external tool for trading as I get more enjoyment out of searching for good trade routes and this would help quite a bit. My note taking is pretty unorganized.

Also begs the question whether FDev will implement their own similar kind of too in the future. I always thought that they should at the very least have a way to click on stations that you have previously visited in the system map to be able to view the previous commodity prices.
 
I would be interested in such a tool, but no I won't be paying for an MS Office which I wouldn't use for any other purpose. There exist free database and spreadsheet softwares.

There is but the Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) TCE uses isn't compatible. OpenOffice had a stab at being VBA compatible but it just isn't very good.

Do you know if TCE will work with older versions of Microsoft Office... I think I have an older version of Office (2007 or 2010) at home that I can install to try this out. I really like the idea of TCE and the additional meta-game features that it offers... I've never used an external tool for trading as I get more enjoyment out of searching for good trade routes and this would help quite a bit. My note taking is pretty unorganized.

Also begs the question whether FDev will implement their own similar kind of too in the future. I always thought that they should at the very least have a way to click on stations that you have previously visited in the system map to be able to view the previous commodity prices.

I use Office 2007 and TCE works fine and 2010 users are reporting it working too. I don't know if 2003 has been tested though.
 
just an update... I've been using TCE for a few days and I like it... Here are some notes...

1. GOOD - Makes trading more fun and efficient... I just look for trade routes the same way as before but now I don't have to take notes.

2. GOOD - Setup isn't too bad... just takes a few minutes

3. SO SO - TCE workflow isn't perfect... maybe I just don't understand it but some things seem a bit confusing... don't have time right now to give examples so I realize this isn't completely fair... just my impression

Edit: I just saw that there is a zoom function for each panels size so this is not a valid issue... it's fine... you can fit it to any resolution...
3. UNDERSTANDABLE - Not made for 1680x1050 screens... the main bar at the top won't fit (as far as I could see) a 1680 screen... seems made for 1920.

Edit: This is also not a valid comment... I found out that my processor was overheating when I'd run OCR. Every time it would get to 80c OCR would crash... I started running into this issue with ED and SC in general so I think it might be a flaw with my processor. I'm using a self contained liquid cooler now and it seems to be working fine. So, sorry for the confusion. It doesn't appear to crash anymore.
4. BAD - TCE Crashes... not sure what causes it but the program will crash sometimes... not too often though

Edit: This is also not a valid comment... I found out that my processor was overheating when I'd run OCR. Every time it would get to 80c OCR would crash... I started running into this issue with ED and SC in general so I think it might be a flaw with my processor. I'm using a self contained liquid cooler now and it seems to be working fine. So, sorry for the confusion. It doesn't appear to crash anymore.
5. MAYBE MY FAULT - I realize this isn't TCE's fault but... Elite OCR crashes all the time... all the time... I think this may be because I'm using a triple screen setup... I haven't been able to test on a single screen setup yet. As it stands though... I'm lucky if I can go 5 scans without OCR crashing. And last night I was trying to scan at one starport and it would never NOT crash... couldn't figure it out and I think I screwed up my TCE config by trying to switch to single screen and then loading TCE again... it crashed and after that TCE would never start for me again... going to try and reconfigure tonight.

6. ON THE BRIGHT SIDE - EliteOCR is very accurate even at 1050 vertical resolution... when it isn't crashing it seems to work flawlessly.
 
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@hawkjon I had the same crashing issues on a dual screen setup with a windowed game client.
I've moved my Windows Task bar to my secondary screen and changed the game options to "Borderless" and my exact primary screen resolution.

I did have to reinstall TCE to make it work, but now everything runs smoothly
 
@timmeey86 Thank you for the tip. I found that my issue stemmed from my processor overheating... this wasn't an issue for me in the past but my computer is getting a little older now. I replaced the air cooler with a liquid one and it seems to be working fine now without issue. I guess my processor was cutting things off at around 80c and crashing whatever was running. OCR seems to be pretty processor intensive.
 
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